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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lessons from history - Transgender Mania

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Childrenofthestones · 29/06/2018 07:06

Short talk with Camille Paglia on a lesson from history and the current transgender Mania being a sign of cultural collapse.

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WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 29/06/2018 08:28

Interesting, thanks OP.

Cuntysnark · 29/06/2018 08:42

Good listen-thank you.

BeUpStanding · 01/07/2018 21:00

Thanks for this link, it was really interesting. It's given me a whole new avenue of thought to consider.

Typeractive · 02/07/2018 07:43

Thanks, OP. I love Camille Paglia. I'm gonna try to get hold of a copy of Sexual Personae I think - might make an interesting read in these times of ours.

SisyphusWasGenderCritical · 02/07/2018 13:27

That was interesting, thank you. Was particulary interested by her theory that androgyny becomes fashionable just as civilisation is collapsing.

Coyoacan · 02/07/2018 16:05

Very interesting indeed

womanformallyknownaswoman · 04/07/2018 01:53

Very very insightful - there are a few women now saying the early signs are there of societal collapse - Lisa Muggeridge being one. I do see general parallels in the western world, with the run-up to the Second World War - so this adds an extra dimension and food for thought.

I do feel like a canary at present

NineNine · 04/07/2018 03:21

Interesting, although I'd take issue with her positioning the transgender ideology alongside the more established liberal stance on sexuality. She has transgender as the liberal centre around which toxic masculinity crystalises on the margins as a reaction to the acceptance of androgyny.

But transgender ideology isn't an acceptance of androgyny, it reacts to entrenched gender rules by reinforcing them, by allowing insufficiently masculine men and insufficiently feminine women to escape one box by jumping into the other. It does nothing to destroy the boxes. I would put transgender activism's efforts to redefine womanhood right alongside the toxic masculinity that she suggests amass on the margins of an ostensibly tolerant and liberal society as it approaches collapse.

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