feminist mums

[newmumsy2016]

to see how important modern feminism is to us mums

I think its critical, especially now pressure groups are trying to change the language around women's bodies, to remove all references to women.

I think its critical, especially now pressure groups are trying to change the language around women's bodies, to remove all references to women.

Not sure I understand. Can you say some more?

i just wanted to see other peoples views as to how feminism effects their lives and how important it is to society

When you say "modern feminism" do you mean manpleasing feminism, or do you mean actual feminism?

Feminism permeates my life. I'd say it's important to me and to society. Even though society might not know it....

Those are very big questions! Can you be a bit more specific?

What do you class as a feminist? What do you expect from a feminist ?

Feminist..someone's who thinks that someone's opportunity should not be determined by assumptions based on their sex.

Someone who recognises that society encourages sterotypical thinking that leads today to restrictions and expectations based on sex

It's important to me because I have a daughter .

What do I expect of a feminist? Nothing . Everyone is different, different problems, experiences, strengths.

, but I would hope that they would look at their actions and thoughts and think if they are being fair to people around them. As a mother, how might your unconscious bias impact how you treat your children? Can you spot gender driven assumptions being made about your child. how to support a daughter who has gender non-component academic strengths? what am I expected to do or be that a man isn't and how might that affect my life? What restricts the opportunities of women and can I do anything about it?

I Don't think that there is any fundamental difference between modern feminism and that of 100 years ago

I'm a mum and good old fashioned feminism is important to me.

I am grateful for all the gains my feminist foremothers achieved for women and girls - my life is completely different from how it would have looked if they hadn't gone through their pain and personal loss for us.

to feminist foremothers.

The struggle continues as male domination is starting to getting purchase on the cosh to beat us back down through the centuries.

Feminism is important to me as a mum because I want to make gains, not just minimise losses, which is what it all seems to be about at the moment.

"Manpleasing feminism", really? This patronising dismissive take on feminists who don't subscribe to separatism and biological essentialism is really quite off-putting.

Post partum depression, vaginal mesh, childbirth injuries; all good examples of why some women subscribe to 'biological essentialism'.

What do you think is meant by "manpleasing feminism" WidowWadman?

For me, “manpleasing feminism” is the sort of feminism that says that ”sex work is work”and porn/pole dancing/lap dancing/burlesque is empowering. Lots of it about.

I wish I had the 'ha, ha, ha plop' graphic (head falling off laughing) to respond to posters like WidowWadman.

It's what goes off in my head every time i read a similar post.

'Separatism'?

'Biological essentialism'?

Do TRAHQ go into a huddle every time the latest language-manguale doesn't work with us thick women here, to come up with another appropriated term?

Separatism = separating biological males from biological females when discussing issues. I suspect there are a lot of biological females here, lurking and non-lurking, going WTF you talking about. That's what separates us, you numpty!

Biological essentialism = oooh, clever 'sociological' words, making us feel bad about reducing our experience down to our 'bits'. But that, my lovely, is what our experience makes us rise back up and go 'fuck that'.

And your wording "really quite off-putting" - I'm going to throw NLP into the mix. You trying to move us all back into the stereotypical "come on ladies, be a bit more becoming in all of this nastiness" world?

Manpleasing feminism to me is arguments and activism to forge the idea that doing whatever men want you to do and letting men do whatever they want to you, no matter how degrading, abusive, exploitative or damaging, are actually feminist 'choices', because feminism is 'pro-choice'.

ie - the opposite of feminism.

Yeah, manpleasing feminism.

The feminists knew what I meant anyway