Only Men Have a Prostate

[sexnotgender]

Happened to be at the doctor yesterday and there was a poster on the wall from prostate Scotland.

One of the lines on it was ‘only men have a prostate‘.

I just found it interesting after the CRUK shenanigans around smears.

Everyday is a learning day on mumsnet

I learnt that when a womyn has a smear it doesnt scrape on the walls of her vagina

True fact

It certainly fucking feels like they are scraping away !!!

Rufus - cells on the cervix are scraped but the speculum insertion shouldn't scrape your vaginal walls

Well i know that now

I didnt know it yesterday...and it was on one of those threads where people say

'Women have no idea of their own bodies i heard one say.....'

And i was like

'Oops....'

Of course only men have a prostate.

Only women bleed.

There’s definitely a song in this.... to the tun3 of “Every Sperm is Sacred” I think

“Wo-men have a Cer-vix
Men they have prostate
If they hide these facts We
Could learn this too late....

I do understand that the song is about abuse, sexual, coercion and physical. But my father was outraged that this was a woman singing about it because he thought it was about periods.

My father beat me and sexually abused me.

Isn't it Scotland that has pretty much erased the term woman or any reference to women from their legislation? Strange how the message doesn't carry over when it's men that are affected.

Has Twitter got hold of this yet?

I was going to post it but my dad had prostate cancer and my mum follows me on Twitter so I decided against it.

My father died of prostate cancer.

I'm so sorry to hear that placemats

The same cancer org that deleted women in the name of inclusivity chose not to delete men from their posters in the name of inclusivity.
That sort of blatant hypocrisy makes them appear as though they are trying to depress the number of women who go for smears.

You might find this interesting:

www.pelvicpainrehab.com/female-pelvic-pain/4546/female-prostate/

You need to let cancer research know, not us Wakame,

And in general,

Your post "look women have a prostate HA!" seems to imply that the prostate cancer messaging should remove sex, and therefore all women in the UK should present for prostate screening if they have symptoms advised in the poster aimed at men, around increased frequency of urination, incomplete emptying of bladder etc? Because I hate to be the one to advise that this will mean large number of women that have had children and large numbers of elderly women will be rocking up and demanding their prostate exams. Why would you want to encourage that?

I am really coming aorund to the idea that a lot of this isn't thought through at all, and then when it is and the result is going to be a system already under pressure collapsing, or needless deaths from cancer, then the answer is don't care as long as I get what I want

Wakamemeeeeeeee's feelings are far more important than cancer screening.

SarahC, I had screening for an aortic aneurysm because my dad had one, which was repaired. So did my brothers. My dad's GP told him we should all be told to get ourselves checked out. They run in families, we were told.

From the link that Wakame posted:

"Obviously Skene’s glands and the prostate gland are not identical twins or even fraternal twins. However, they are somewhat homologous structures despite different physiological functions."

Close, but no cigar, Wakame.

OP are you sure you don't risk getting banned for quoting such a controversial statement?

This was linked to on another thread, a really interesting TED talk on the implications of sex differences on healthcare. The introduction:

Every cell in the human body has a sex, which means that men and women are different right down to the cellular level.

Ignoring this might help a very very small group of dysphoric individuals, but because medical research and practice has tended to assume adult male as default it puts women and girls at risk with symptoms being missed and treatment being inappropriate. I will always put the health of women and children first over the feelings of dysphoric men (and yes over the feelings of dysphoric women too).

Wakame has a track record of jamming down some random study in the misguided belief that they are producing some sort of gotcha moment.

I always enjoy watching Wakame's pretentions get skewered by the many scientists on this board.

I know MrsFogi, I'll take my chances though!

Nicely done Pythagonal I couldn't be arsed reading the whole thing.

Prawn the poster caught my eye because a member of my family died from an aneurysm.

I just thought it was interesting because it was routine screening aimed at men where the word men hadn't been mangled. Unlike the CRUK campaign.

prawn

Yes. I had an interesting study to share about edible marine algae but decided, on reflection, it wasn't relevant