yogyakarta principles plus 10

[happydappy2]

Is anyone familiar with the yogyakarta principles plus 10? Have just read through & it looks like people who decide to change their sex, will have the right to a new birth certificate showing their 'new' sex. There will be no way of checking a persons history

STATES SHALL:
A. Ensure that official identity documents only include personal information that is relevant, reasonable and necessary as required by the law for a legitimate purpose, and thereby end the registration of the sex and gender of the person in identity documents such as birth certificates, identification cards, passports and driver licences, and as part of their legal personality.
iii. Ensure that no eligibility criteria, such as medical or psychological interventions, a psycho-medical diagnosis, minimum or maximum age, economic status, health, marital or parental status, or any other third party opinion, shall be a prerequisite to change one’s name, legal sex or gender;
iv. Ensure that a person’s criminal record, immigration status or other status is not used to prevent a change of name, legal sex or gender.

I'm just concerned about the safeguarding issues here surrounding women and children. Particularly the no minimum age for children & the fact a persons criminal record will mean nothing-this is worrying. Are there any safeguards in place at all?

Terrifying they are, the YPs

Enough with the "terrifying" nonsense.

and change your silly username.

The YP genuinely terrify me. Don't speak to me like I'm a child. And have a sense of humour. Have you seen some of the user names around here? Some are well pretentious.

The Yog Principles are nothing but a wish list.

But political bodies are using this as a blueprint of 'international best practice'. The Scottish consultation said this. Maria Miller's report said this. The Council of Europe said this.

The YP are internationally important and I'm just surprised more fuss isn't made about them. "Wish list" doesn't do it justice more like "hit list" if you ask me with the words "biological female" and "sex" at the top, middle and bottom

Terfulike I agree... I only heard about them through A Woman's Place and they are seriously terrifying - the amount of thought and money and entitlement that went into them, drawing them up SO LONG AGO in preparation for what is happening for today

How are they a blueprint for best practice? How have people conceded that ... it was a body with NO authority that drew it up, in a format that mimicked international agreements

"How are they a blueprint for best practice? How have people conceded that ... it was a body with NO authority that drew it up, in a format that mimicked international agreements"

That's an highly disingenuous statement

"The finalised Yogyakarta Principles was launched as a global charter on 26 March 2007 at the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva." - Wikipedia

They haven't been accepted as UN treaty because of opposition from many states with negative attitudes to LGBTI people but they are still very much the best international standard there is.

loveyour

I got the impression from listening to Shiela Jeffries at the recent We need to Talk meeting (link above) that the YP principles were piggybacked onto, and hidden amongst, a great number of distinct LBG-related rights: while the LBG-related principles were timely and appropriate, as well as being considered genuinely good practice by most lesbians and GC women, the fact that the truly awful and unreasonable T-related issues were in the same document is apparently how it happened, basically all or nothing. A classic example of the problems that arise when the T arrived to join the LGB, after all, what on earth do they have in common, especially when one considers that the T is trying to erase the LG as well as women.