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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

My Manfriday, without realising it.

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BatShite · 09/06/2018 14:39

Copied this from another thread..as I highly suspect that thread will go poof before long.

I went to see Ed Sheeran at St James Park last night. In the break after Anne Marie (supporting), the queue for the womens loo was literally 300 people long, maybe more. Meanwhile there seemed to be noone in the mens. The women were waiting patiently as they are used to this obviously. So I led a mass revolt into the mens, I announced to the people around me that if we were stopped, we just need to say we 'identify' as men, which amused them BUT it turned out a few of them had already heard of all this self ID nonsense and found the idea decent. So off we went to the mens. A few men were in there and I did shout through that we were coming in incase they weren't impressed (which I guess goes against the whole 'I am a man' thing, but yeah, I thought of their feelings and discomfort) and a couple shot into the cubicle instead of continuing to use the urinal. Those men were absolutely not happy at all with the situation. A few men were though and found it funny, and one stopped to talk to me where I told him that I am currently identifying as a man as the womens queue was ridiculous. he had also heard of all the self ID nonsense, chuckled to himself and left. And the women, got to the loo faster. Men had to queue beside the (growing) queue of women who were waiting there..or use the urinal in a room full of women, that they did not seem impressed with either. And security came over but they just stood at the door holding it open for people.

I then found out that earlier in the night, the same kind of thing had happened BUT it had actually been one of the female security staff who had went to the mens, held the door and invited women in the large queue to come use the mens instead. So basically, the female security staff had decided to allow women to identify as men grin

A good day, really. And I did not click on that it was friday either until this thread. Heh.

The mens fucking stank to the high heavens though, but it was better than being desperate for the loo for an hour in a ridiculously long queue for sure. And potentially missing half of Ed Sheeran, given the breaks were fairly short.

I would say it was probably 50/50 of men who were ok with it,. and men who absolutely were not. If I had clicked on about it being ManFriday I would have attempted to explain this to the men who were not impressed. But I didn't..I didn't plan on doing a ManFriday, however it was just a thought when so many women were inconvenienced and there was a way to end this. I was expecting to have to explain to security that we identified as men though, and find out what St James' Park thought of it all. But as it turned out, security were not just accepting of it, they started it earlier in the night when the same problem reared its head. Not entirely sure why they did not start it in the second break mind, maybe they had had a talking to or something. But I did start it the second time, and it felt bloody good.

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NoseringGirl · 09/06/2018 16:20

I absolutely disagree. Have you ever seen a man in the ladies at a football match?!

There are signs up at St James' Park (in the Gallowgate end where I sit at football) on the women's toilet doors that say any man found using the women's toilets will have their season ticket removed. Football is the one time we get shorter queues.

My husband mentioned there were women in the men's loos when we were there last night (were you in the Leazes Stand?) and I joked that it was Man Friday so they must have been self IDing Grin

Pratchet · 09/06/2018 16:25

I will always use the gents in future to avoid a long queue. Until they stop this self ID nonsense.

BatShite · 09/06/2018 16:25

No, but a friend of mine was in that bit and mentioned that when i said about what had happened where we were. She said it was a random woman who decided there too whilst she was in the queue, and again, security got involved AFTER the women decided to go into the mens, but they did not remove anyone they just 'stood guard' basically and that a lot of men seemed really pissed off at having to actually queue. We were in the Platium area..not sure which stand or whatever, just know it was the Platinum bit.

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NoseringGirl · 09/06/2018 16:28

Ooh very nice!
The queues for the women's were ridiculous, much longer than on match days. I did contemplate going into the men's but it smelt awful.

HornyTortoise · 09/06/2018 16:34

I will always use the gents in future to avoid a long queue. Until they stop this self ID nonsense.

I would never dare do this in a quiet area. But I guess if it was to avoid queues, its not a quiet area at all is it.

I did contemplate going into the men's but it smelt awful.

There was a little boy there with his mum, who joined the queue for the mens with us (she was taking him into the womens at the time as he was maybe 6/7 ish) and he was bloody hilarious. The women were going on about the smell and he had no filter at all and was saying that it didn't smell, the women were being OTT, if they did not like the smell they should not be there (fair point I guess) and finally, said loudly that the women would get done a lot quicker if they just squatted over the urinals Grin

HornyTortoise · 09/06/2018 16:37

Heh fuck. I did namechange after posting this thread as I realised it had been a while since I had done so, then saw a reply (the vice thing) that I had to reply to. Then saw a reply which would make no sense if I did not revert back to old name as did not want to link them. But I seem to have now linked my old username with my newer one (as I could not think of another name) so kind of outing I guess but meh. have not used this one for over a year.

I don't actually know why I bother to namechange as my posting style is quite unique and surely most would be able to link them anyway, especially my overuse of ...

HornyTortoise · 09/06/2018 16:37

It does not really help that most of my usernames are to do with animals either. Might stick with this one. I think I also posted in a thread a few weeks back listing many of my usernames..so linking myself anyway.

OrchidInTheSun · 09/06/2018 16:48

I was in France last week and you had to ask for the key for the women's loo at the bar I was in. Given the odour emanating from the men's, this was very welcome

HornyTortoise · 09/06/2018 16:52

Yes, mens loos are really vile. I expect its the urinals though rather than men being vile. Having said that, I have spent most of my life working in bars and by far the mens were the worst, not for the smell as such, but for obvious being a twattyness. Like wiping shite up the walls and such. Where the womens was vile at times but it was stuff that could really be put down to accidents like crap on the back of the seat or blood on the floor. But in general, I think urinals are a pretty disgusting idea in general, 'good' I guess for convenience, and maybe guys are happy to put up with the smell for the extra convenience, but most men I have spoke to about this issue hate the idea of urinals. My husband does not use them at all and always uses the cubicle.

Tanith · 09/06/2018 17:05

I attended a girls school many years ago. They amalgamated the Sixth Form with the boys school nearby and we had to change a toilet room into a male one to accommodate them.

It smelt very strongly once it started being used, even though it was new, so I think the smell is down to the hormones in male urine rather than a lack of cleanliness.

ChickenMe · 09/06/2018 18:06

Yeah I was going to say male urine smells more-wasnt there an initiative to scare foxes off by putting male urine in your garden?

NotARegularPenguin · 09/06/2018 18:11

I’ve done it in pubs a few times. Blokes have their backs to the room so not like you’d see anything anyway.

Tried it at Chambery airport the other year and all the cubicles were locked! Nobody in them. God knows what happens if a bloke needs a poo!

CaitlynsCat · 10/06/2018 11:15

"If anything this is is an argument for getting rid of single sex loos at places like theatres and concert venues where there is a high turnover of users in a short period."

Er no it's not. Did you read the OP's post?

"I went to see Ed Sheeran at St James Park last night."

St James Park is a football stadium. Most football fans are men.

They probably have the right number of female toilets for that.

They don't have the right number of female toilets for an Ed Sheeran concert.

LassWiADelicateAir · 10/06/2018 11:20

Er no it's not. Did you read the OP's post?

I blanked the Ed Sheeran bit. My argument still stands. It was an event where there will be a very high turnover of users in a short time. Concert halls and theatres have this problem.

NoseringGirl · 10/06/2018 12:06

We really don't need to change the loos at SJP. It works perfectly fine on match days. I would prefer not to share the toilets with the blokes. They can get in and out at the urinals pretty quickly and there's a lot more of them. If we had to queue behind them to access cubicles in a shared facility, it would hold everyone up for a lot longer.

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