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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transgender Trend Crowdfunder suspended

56 replies

OldCrone · 01/06/2018 13:27

The TRAs have been busy complaining about the crowdfunder, and have managed to get it suspended

"We have been told by @crowdfunderuk that our our project has been suspended pending further investigation, due to an 'unprecedented number of complaints.' All complaints we have seen on Twitter are libelous. Please contact [email protected] to support us."

twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1002525265518526464

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Lifesavingorange · 01/06/2018 16:50

If hate = protecting vulnerable children from the trans cult who will encourage them to cut bits off their healthy bodies, lie to them that they can actually become the opposite sex, and leave them sterile, then I’m OK with hate.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 01/06/2018 16:54

Having an opinion that does not agree witth Mermaids in not hate.

Are we not allowed to speak about this?

If TGT is not allowed to talk to schools then surely neither should Mermaids... for exactly the same reasons! Will nobody think of thechildren!!??

OldCrone · 01/06/2018 16:54

Fox
What do you think is responsible for so many girls wanting to mutilate their bodies in an effort to opt out of being women?

Did you read the article I linked to last time you made the same comment? It would help you to understand the issues better. Social contagion is a real phenomenon, and seems to explain very well what is happening to a lot of young women at the moment.

Here's the link for you
Outbreak: On Transgender Teens and Psychic Epidemics

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Tanith · 01/06/2018 16:58

I’m not sure I’d trust a crowdfunder.

I mean, there you could be, donating to someone’s legal fees or fines or reassignment ops, thinking you’re helping the trans cause, and all the time it’s really a front for WPUK or someone like that and you’d never know, would you?

If that academics letter to Bristol University is anything to go by, you’d never even check either!

R0wantrees · 01/06/2018 17:01

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-are-some-mps-trying-to-shut-down-the-transgender-debate/

(extract from James Kirkup article)
"As it happens, Dr Carmichael in her lecture said some things that seem relevant here:

“Gender has become amazingly topical and we have to be really careful not to assume that anyone is exploring or questioning their gender is going to want to change their bodies in line with that. The extremes on either side are not helpful. We need to look at the grey areas in between. To do that we need to be able to talk and discuss these issues. All too often stakeholders become lobby groups.”

** Polly Carmichael is head of Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) of the Tavistock and Portman Trust, which is the NHS centre of excellence for helping children and adolescents with gender dsyphoria and other issues of gender-variance."

Link to her talk covering background of service, evidence base, dilemmas and debate:
soundcloud.com/user-664361280/dr-polly-carmichael-developments-and-dilemmas]]

GenderApostate · 01/06/2018 17:01

Is Fox an alter ego of mimmymum? 🤔
The head of GIDS hasn’t criticised the Schools pack, in fact she mentioned it at conference didn’t she?
if anyone is qualified to have an opinion, it’s them.

OldmanOfTheWeb3 · 01/06/2018 17:04

I emailed them. I hope many others here do and if not yet, then will now. It only took a few minutes. Organizations like this know that for every email sent, there are many more people who feel the same. Every email counts.

OldmanOfTheWeb3 · 01/06/2018 17:13

Glad this has been suspended, it's just full of hate. It's not supporting trans youth at all. It's against them. With a few things being mentioned like it blaming internet use and “social contagion” for “glamorising medical transition” and causing “rapid-onset gender dysphoria” in children.

There's not a drop of hate in it. It's written by people desperately trying to protect children. We call that compassion, whether you agree with the research it's based on or not.

In regards to your specifics:

Glamourising Transition
The Scottish Trans pack for schools included a list of trans celebrities to hold up as role-models and posters ready to print out to encourage children to come out as trans. (I can link it if you don't believe me). It talks about celebrating being trans explicitly.

It is dangerous to encourage children to come out as trans and hold it up as a positive thing which is what Mermaids, Allsorts and Scottish Trans do in their schools advice.

Social Contagion
There is strong evidence this is a real thing. We see clusters of children coming out as trans, we see a widespread and sudden rise in both parents and children declaring their child is trans. We see online conversations on pro-trans websites encouraging people to identify as trans and sudden sharp rises in it by region. Social Contagion is a real thing and therefore something to be deeply concerned about. We also have accounts from detransitioners talking about how they were led into thinking of themselves as trans by other trans people. I've listened to such accounts and they're heart-breaking.

ROGD
As with Social Contagion, we have plenty of evidence for this. In fact, we've had members here talking about exactly this. It's bizarre that you would deny this exists.

This information pack is very important. And it's received excellent responses from schools and medical professionals and parents.

Terfing · 01/06/2018 17:20

Are there any journalists we can Tweet this too? I think a decent article could be written on this?

PoulaFisch · 01/06/2018 17:26

Lifesavingorange

What these vile men and their pathetic female allies do not understand is IT DOES NOT MATTER how hard they try to stop us. They can get us banned, censored, suspend our fundraisers, threaten us, it will never, ever stop us.

Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think! :/

ReluctantCamper · 01/06/2018 17:28

They can get us banned, censored, suspend our fundraisers, threaten us

all those things have been done by transactivists PoulaFisch. I'm not sure what your point is?

Pratchet · 01/06/2018 20:27

They can get us banned, censored, suspend our fundraisers, threaten us, it will never, ever stop us.

Onwards Smile always onwards Brew

SameTerfDifferentUserName · 01/06/2018 20:40

Angry email sent and donation made! I assume fox is one half of the narcissistic F and O duo not mimmymum/Helen. How is she these days? Have her and her kids got the help they need yet? ☹️

Popchyk · 01/06/2018 20:44

Andrew Gilligan (him again) has retweeted the Transgender Trend tweet about this.

twitter.com/mragilligan?lang=en

We have been told by @crowdfunderuk that our project has been suspended pending further investigation, due to an 'unprecedented number of complaints.' All complaints we have seen on Twitter are libelous. Please contact [email protected] to support us.

SameTerfDifferentUserName · 01/06/2018 20:46

Do like Andrew Gilligan! Would @glinner retweet too? He seems to have had enough of this shit!

Theinconstantgardener · 01/06/2018 21:44

Emailed and donated. They will not silence us.

R0wantrees · 01/06/2018 22:17

"Crowdfunding platform suspends campaign to distribute 'deceitful' school resources on transgender young people
Transgender children's charity, Mermaids, 'delighted' by decision"
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/transgender-trend-crowdfunder-school-children-young-people-resource-pack-suspended-a8379556.html

LaSqrrl · 01/06/2018 23:06

And they’re also too thick to realise that their tactics create new allies for us, as people see their bullying tactics and realise the truth. These aren’t poor, oppressed, marginalised women. They are nasty, bullying misogynists.

Hear hear! Life Wine
It is kind of telling that many of their former allies are joining the ranks of the gender critical. Wink

Tanith · 02/06/2018 11:54

I am shocked that, in this current climate of cut-to-the-bone education budgets, the Department of Education gave Mermaids a £35000 grant to train schools.

OldmanOfTheWeb3 · 02/06/2018 13:59

The LGBT lobby group Stonewall

That's a joke, these days! There's a T in Stonewall but the L,G and B are not to be found.

R0wantrees · 02/06/2018 14:07

James Kirkup
blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/the-silencing-of-the-lesbians/
(extract)
"Some lesbians feel uncomfortable, to put it mildly, about such arguments. Lucy Masoud, a London firefighter trade unionist, says some transgender people are “bullying lesbians into having intercourse with people they don’t want to…. [I] just need to escape being labelled a transphobe for not wanting to sleep with people who have penises.”

To summarise: lesbians, who say they are sexually attracted to people with female genitals, report that they find themselves being told, sometimes aggressively, that they must include in their range of potential sexual partners people who have male genitals. And if they speak out to challenge such messages, they are told they are being “transphobic” or bigoted or similar."

Recent thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3259650-Lesbian-gets-banned-from-LGBTQ-messaged-board-for-trying-to-talk-about-the-lesbophobia-in-trans-activism

R0wantrees · 02/06/2018 14:41

From US case, A girl writes about her school experience & court case:
'Girls and boys shouldn't do everything together | Opinion'

"I don’t have a problem sharing a bathroom with someone who identifies as transgender — provided they are the same sex I am. I do have trouble with a policy that says anyone who’s in an opposite-sex mood today can stroll in and observe me in my intimate moments — and with school officials who value the feelings of a few students more than the dignity and privacy of all those in their care.

It’s my hope that the judges who may hear our case going forward will understand that better than our school administrators have — and take more seriously their responsibility to protect girls’privacy where it should be most protected: in the girls’ room.

Alexis Lightcap is a student at Boyertown Area Senior High School and a plaintiff in the lawsuit Doe v. Boyertown Area School District."

www.philly.com/philly/opinion/commentary/boyertown-transgender-bathroom-lgbtq-gender-identiy-philadelphia-suburbs-20180524.html

AsAProfessionalFekko · 02/06/2018 14:49

This is to Fox - don't be such a tit.

If mermaids had got a hold of my sister back in the day she's be called Terry now, taking a cocktail or hormones, probably had surgery and be shaving her back.

She was a good old fashioned tomboy who grew up to be a lesbian. She played a boys role as a child because th at was her way of making sense of the world. She didn't want to be a male but with the trend, fashion and 'you must've been born on the wrong body' Bandwagon propaganda, Christ knows how it would have ended if the trans activity had got their claws into her as a 5 year old. Oh, and me being a doting little sister who copied her big sister, you'd probably be calling me Dave.

Showing 2 sides of a debate is the hate - countering propaganda from one lobby group isn't hate.

R0wantrees · 06/06/2018 12:38

Oliver Burkeman (Guardian)

twitter.com/oliverburkeman/status/1004152461815410690

Transgender Trend Crowdfunder suspended
GeordieTerf · 06/06/2018 12:44

I donated to this, but I haven't had a refund yet. I guess that means that TT will still get the money raised prior to their suspension?