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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Venice's interview with Geordie transwomen "Now that's what I call a talk show"

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BeyondSceptical · 01/06/2018 09:39

This was a brilliant interview, anyone who hasn't seen it should have a look.

Jossy and Fay agreed with Venice on a lot of points, and disagreements were nothing but civil. This is what the complete opposite of #nodebate looks like :)

Enjoy!

www.facebook.com/1978369885755604/videos/2048709395388319/

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pombear · 01/06/2018 22:48

Just watching towards the end - Jossy and Fay, I'm a bit discombobulated (don't think you're here on this thread but just posing the question). You're pretty much on board with people with penises = shouldn't be in women's only spaces.

But one of you in particular - because you hadn't had your surgery at 21, but were presenting as a woman (debatable what that means if you take away gender stereotypes) you should be in women's only spaces because it's dangerous for you elsewhere, even in a hypothetical third space.

This is the problem. How do you square the two? You don't feel safe around people with penises. At the time you still have a penis. So you want to be in women's spaces (cos third-spaces aren't safe and attract the 'wrong kind' of people).

But you have a penis. Therefore, as you acknowledge, many of the people around you (females) don't want to be around a penis.

Round and round - I get why it's a problem for you, but it presents a problem for females too.

Theswaggyotter · 01/06/2018 22:51

I just watched it and it was like a breath of fresh air. Fantastic to see debate without anyone getting angry or huffy etc. We need to hear more from the moderate transgender people to balance out the TRAs

Theswaggyotter · 01/06/2018 22:54

I should add thanks to Jossy, Fay and Venice for making this video
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