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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is misogyny gender hostility?

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 31/05/2018 11:30

I'm confusing myself with sex and gender today

New Scottish government review into hate crime legislation ( www.gov.scot/hatecrimereviewreport )

Has a large section on whether misogyny should be a hate crime and concludes

I have considered the alternative options, and am recommending a new statutory aggravation based on gender hostility, following the pattern used in the existing statutory aggravations for race, religion, disability, sexual orientation and transgender identity.

Where an offence is committed, and it is proved that the offence was motivated by hostility based on gender, or the offender demonstrates hostility towards the victim based on gender during, or immediately before or after, the commission of the offence, it would be recorded as aggravated by gender hostility. The court would be required to state that fact on conviction and take it into account when sentencing

It sounds to me like they are treating gender in "gender hostility" as different from gender in "transgender" . Surely if misogyny is because of gender then both transphobia and misogyny would be gender hostility crimes? Confused

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Ereshkigal · 31/05/2018 12:55

While I agree with the basic premise, I don't like that term. Why can't they just call it misogyny and recognise there is a misogyny problem in society? FFS.

HotRocker · 31/05/2018 13:15

They’ll do anything but name it. Misogyny is not a hatred of gender, it’s a hatred of women, hence the name misogyny. Anything to dance around the issue or die loot it so it doesn’t exclude men.
What about someone like me who does not perform female gender stereotypes, if I get beat up for looking butch would that not be counted?

Ereshkigal · 31/05/2018 13:17

What about someone like me who does not perform female gender stereotypes, if I get beat up for looking butch would that not be counted?

Exactly, I am concerned about that, and that it discounts the misogyny of many trans identified males.

Opheliah · 31/05/2018 13:22

Considering Transgender identity is already included it must mean gender as in male or female rather than gender identity.

They're saying "gender hostility" not misogyny because they do not mean just misogyny. They mean agression or crime provoked by a person being either male or female.

UpstartCrow · 31/05/2018 13:24

For misogyny to be a hate crime they'd have to be able to name men and women, recognise male hatred and violence against women, and recognise women as a separate group to trans people.
So it won't happen. It has to be relabelled and reframed, and made not about women any more.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 31/05/2018 13:36

Just watching the news now, it's really worrying that the protected characteristic of sex is disappearing

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Ereshkigal · 31/05/2018 13:45

They're saying "gender hostility" not misogyny because they do not mean just misogyny. They mean agression or crime provoked by a person being either male or female.

I know. Which I think disregards the huge glaring problem of misogyny in society. What female aggression or crime are we talking about that is provoked by a person being male? Aileen Wuornos?

AssassinatedBeauty · 31/05/2018 13:56

Quite, @Ereshkigal. I'd like to know what this epidemic of crime is that is provoked by hatred of men.

Ereshkigal · 31/05/2018 13:57

Such pandering to MRA and TRA bullshit.

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