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Most children and teens with gender dysphoria also have multiple other psychologicalissues

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SarahSiddons · 15/05/2018 16:37

digest.bps.org.uk/2018/01/17/most-children-and-teens-with-gender-dysphoria-also-have-multiple-other-psychological-issues/

“Are the indicators of psychological vulnerability identified in these case histories the consequence, cause or simply coincident to gender identity disorder? If they are all solely a fall-out from the gender dysphoria, then the decisive approach of the physicians described above has a certain sense to it. But if some of the psychological complications pre-dated the gender dysphoria, or were separate from it, then at the very least this would suggest that the consulted physicians should have considered a broader treatment plan, and considered the psychological complications when judging their clients’ “readiness” to commence biomedical treatments.”

Apologies if this has been shared before but I only read this article today and thought it would be of interest.

I think the dilemma above is key - are the previous “diagnoses of a psychological disorder ... More than half had reported thinking about suicide, a third had dropped out of high school, a quarter had self harmed.” caused by ‘being in the wrong body’ or are the feelings of ‘being in the wrong body’ another sign of psychological distress and a symptom of a problem not the actual problem to be solved (with hormones and/or surgery).

I’ve never posted on this topic before but moving quickly to such treatments for children without being absolutely sure that it’s the right thing to do really concerns me.

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Ifonlyus · 15/05/2018 18:13

I read it a month or two ago. It's really worth reading down to the comments. The writer defends their article impeccably.

SarahSiddons · 15/05/2018 18:53

Ifonlyus - I did read the comments and I agree that the author was very good at responding to criticism, not defensive but responding clearly to points made.

R0wantrees - I have read a lot of the trans threads on here and most of the time I don’t know what to think for myself. So much of the ‘debate’ seems so heated and polarised it makes me uncomfortable.

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SarahSiddons · 15/05/2018 19:21

I’ve read both articles now. Thank you. The Spectator article I found particularly interesting.

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Kyanite · 16/05/2018 07:05

I've come across this recently too - image attached

Ray Blanchard PhD is worth a follow twitter.com/BlanchardPhD?lang=en

The frequency of personality disorders in patients with gender identity disorder www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/

Most children and teens with gender dysphoria also have multiple other psychologicalissues
R0wantrees · 16/05/2018 12:00

SarahSiddons
I keep reading and listening (not just here) and hope to understand better that way.

OnTheList · 16/05/2018 12:22

The author is very very good at defending his article. Not getting sidelined by the usual bullshit claims of inaccuracies and such.

So it is helpful to have that clarified, that we are dealing with differences in opinion – always welcome – not misreporting of the facts. It’s a basis to maybe have a conversation from.

Only up to here in the comments, so I have only read 1 and a half of his, but my god, he knows that persons score doesn't he Grin

UpstartCrow · 16/05/2018 13:49

I have wondered if 'being in the wrong body' is sometimes a description of dissociation.
If we ignore the risk of abuse and enable transitioning, we enable and invisibilise child abuse.

R0wantrees · 16/05/2018 14:05

From the Guardian article linked above,
"Adele Robinson (not her real name), a head of year at a secondary school, shares Davies-Arai’s worries. The school has had 12 children, all girls, come out as transgender in the past 18 months. The majority, she says, have autism, and some have experienced sexual abuse."

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