Linguistic rules and misusing stats

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After watching Bergdorf having a melt and simultaneously being an arse on C4 this week, this rant is quite refreshing.

dailycaller.com/2018/05/12/linguistic-minefield-of-politically-correct-tranny/

Outspoken trans activists want to appear way more oppressed than they really are. To achieve this, they need to be able to prove just how discriminatory everyone is towards them. But since this doesn’t match up to reality, they have changed reality to make it line up with them. They have created linguistic rules that the common person has no way of knowing, so that when some ordinary person accidentally activates a semantic trap on Twitter or elsewhere, these angry trans folk can dogpile on them and call them out for being “transphobic.”

These people want to be oppressed because the left awards those that are victims, and now they’re in the most ironic dick-measuring contest of all time in an effort to prove which identity group is the most victimized.

This is even evident in how these wannabe victims misuse stats. In 2017, there were 28 transgendered individuals across the United States who were murdered. LGBT advocates would like you to believe that these people were all murdered due to their gender identity. However, in many cases, there is little to no evidence of this.

Good article.

These people want to be oppressed because the left awards those that are victims, and now they’re in the most ironic dick-measuring contest of all time in an effort to prove which identity group is the most victimized.

I particularly liked this line!

Ohhhh that was good. Really good. Much respect to Sophia, I’m sure she know what sort of shitstorm is about to land. How sad is it though that an article like that feels like such a win? It’s just nice to here something that isn’t absofuckinglutely ludicrous

The reclaiming of Formerly oppressive language is an interesting conversation in its self, but I certainly agree with the linguistic and semantic minefield set up by the TRAs part. Language and usage changes over time, and with at least some consensus, and suddenly deciding that the general population is stepping on a bunch of formerly innocuous, and let’s face it, mainly polite terms that have now been loaded with gunpowder will not do them any good at all, especially when the penalty for stepping on one of these landmines is insults, rape threats and or death threats. I can almost understand the anti-PC brigade moaning that we’re not allowed to say anything anymore, but, I don’t wish to be aligned with those people either, because unlike them, I do believe that words have the power to harm, A belief that the TRAs do not share if Twitter and other SM is anything to go by. . . Language does matter, but changing peoples use of language depends on changing their understanding of the meaning behind it, and simply setting a trap on any particular word is not going to Bring people to that place of understanding.

Maybe someone can link this thread to her twitter (I'm not on twitter). She'd prob like to know people on the other side of the world are talking about her article !

twitter.com/Snorwich0747/status/995735652342870016

It hasn't gone down well with some.

Oops! Misgendered there should be he'd!

Or maybe not. Calls herself Sophie so she? But calls himself crossdresser so he? I think I'm illustrating her/his point

Yes, seems pretty chilled.

I'm not a crossdresser. I'm transgendered. Been on hormones for 3 years. :)

Hello Snorwich

The range of options is enormous, we get confused.

It's understandable, especially when they create new terms (and genders!) every day. I don't buy into that shenanigans.

Anyways, the terms worth knowing are:

Crossdressers- Typically just fetishistic, it can involve gay and straight men who get a sexual pleasure out of wearing clothes of the opposite gender. Usually this is only done in a sexual environment and not in day to day life, except in rare cases.

Drag queens- Mostly just performers who have fun expressing themselves in a unique way. They're often not trans, though they are typically gay.

Transgenders/transsexuals- People like me, those that have battled gender dysphoria since a young age and who identify as the opposite gender. And unlike other identities this does have some scientific backing and is probably linked to a process in brain development called DNA methyltransferase, aka DNA methylation, aka DNMT

We have an LGBT organisation here, Stonewall, espousing the Trans Umbrella which includes cross dressing as a day to day life thing. This is what has pushed many women to the limit here.

See Phil Bunce below:

twitter.com/CreditSuisse/status/971060336819228672

He was given a Financial Times Top 50 Female Champions for Women in Business for coming to work dressed as a woman. Because clearly there are not enough women to give awards to, men need to be included in the top 50 women.

So as "woman" now just means "wearing a dress and a wig" according to the umbrella, women can just budge up, we have enough equality now, time for fetishistic men to be included.

If I may, here's a piece I wrote a few months ago. It's one many of you might actually agree with. It explains how I'm a developmental anomaly outside of the norm, but it also goes into how my 'defect' should come with some conditions. It briefly touches up on the absurdity of many other trans folk.

medium.com/@snorwich0747/anomalies-3578f18087bf

As a trans person one of the things that bothers me most is how the radical left is using us to group in any/all types of identities and even kinks. Now I have no issue with crossdressers, I'm all for kink as long as it involves only consenting adults, but crossdressing is NOT the same as being trans and to pretend it is is incredibly disingenuous and wrong. Also in many cases it should be strictly left in the bedroom/household.

Believe it or not but I used to be a bleeding-heart-liberal, but I began seeing through the BS and it changed my ways. I'm now right of center and I think there is an intellectual reawakening happening on that side. People like Jordan Peterson, Christian Hoff Sommers, and to the detriment of some, Milo Yiannopoulos, really speak to me and I think they're getting people to see reasoning and logic again. Considering how much they hate guns, the left really shot themselves in the foot.

We see the same thing happening here politically, on the left we had all women short lists which are now opened up to self id males in breach of the Equality Act 2010.

Lobbyists are pushing policy ahead of the law, which in a way is good timing as we have seen the results and have a chance to push back while people figure out what is going on.

There are a number of threads talking about various aspects

Here is the menu:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights

This is not a right v left situation, though. Both sides are down on women's rights, at the moment.

But It is a matter of physical reality v "feelz"

I agree, its not a left or right thing, it's a misuse of Human Rights to sneak in kink as an orientation or identity.

That's fair, I shouldn't have simplified it as such, and yes, it is reality vs feelings.

This board has people from UK all political parties. Sadly all parties have drunk the kool aid and are woke. Especially the brocialists and dude bros. We have a right wing government who seem to have got a bit of a shock from women objecting and have gone a bit quiet.

It may also be very possible for both papers such as The Daily Mail and the Conservatives (particularly the more right wing members) to capitalise as there are some overlaps with free speech / Levenson 2 / parliamentary process /GRA debate.
Amongst the Conservative MPs who have made notable comment are Jacob Rees Mogg, David Davies (not the Brexit one), and Norman Tebbitt.

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-are-some-mps-trying-to-shut-down-the-transgender-debate/

RedToothBrush posted the following on a recent thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3244904-Finally-a-balanced-overview-article-in-the-Guardian?pg=5

"Right now if I were Labour (and/or the Guardian since they endorse Labour) I'd start paying some attention to this:

Election Data @ election_data
Something remarkable in the YouGov polling from today. These are figures for those in social grade C2DE (January numbers in brackets):
CON 43% (35% in January)
LAB 40% (46%)
LD 7% (6%)
UKIP 3% (7%)
GRN 2% (2%)
Seven-point swing to the Tories from Labour since January

These are the figures for Con-Lab performance amongst C2DEs since 1997
1997 Lab 55, Con 24
2001 Lab 52, Con 27
2005 Lab 44, Con 29
2010 Lab 35, Con 34
2015 Lab 36, Con 30
2017 Lab 44, Con 42
Source: Ipsos-Mori How Britain Voted series

How C2DEs voted since 1974:
1974: Lab 53, Con 24
1979: Lab 45, Con 37
1983: Lab 37, Con 37
1987: Lab 42, Con 35
1992: Lab 45, Con 35
1992: Lab 45, Con 35
1997: Lab 55, Con 24
2001: Lab 52, Con 27
2005: Lab 44, Con 29
2010: Lab 35, Con 34
2015: Lab 36, Con 30
2017: Lab 44, Con 42

1974: Lab +29
1979: Lab +8
1983: LEVEL
1987: Lab +7
1992: Lab +10
1992: Lab +10
1997: Lab +31
2001: Lab +25
2005: Lab +15
2010: Lab +1
2015: Lab +6
2017: Lab +2

In terms of small town voting winning policy, trans rights score negatively for Labour.

Just something to ponder on if you live in a left wing liberal bubble. Cultural trying to sell this to Stoke on Trent Central will be 'hard work'."