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'Bokeh' film. Spoilers!!

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athingthateveryoneneeds · 01/05/2018 07:55

Spoilers within. You've been warned!

I watched this last night on Netflix and it's been bugging me all night long.

A couple wake up to an empty world. Both young, in love, happy, etc. On holiday in Iceland.

But the woman is distraught at the loss of friends and family, is going through a religious crisis and is on the brink of major depression. She is still doing the dishes, though! She's still making the tea of course!

Man is excited to be released from the shackles of modern life while still exploiting the benefits of it - free food, goods, home, cars, etc. He tries to pull her out of her depression while ignoring all her points on why she is sad/worried/scared. He gets annoyed with her for pointing out how futile their lives are on a planet with only two people. Also for trying to keep their food supplies in good order. (He eats whatever he wants because he feels like it!)

He sees the future as wide open with possibilities. She sees it as bleak and empty. She's the one with a problem of course?

I read a movie review that described the female character as a harpy, nag and nuisance. It wasn't until the end of the movie that I realised it was written in the man's POV all along and he had no idea that his partner/gf was on the brink of utter despair until it was too late. He drove her to her death, basically.

I find this whole concept disturbing, that a woman's valid concerns are completely disregarded by her 'loving' partner to the point that she kills herself. And he had no idea how bad it was until then.

Even in a world empty of people, woman's socialisation kills her.

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DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 01/05/2018 09:25

I watched that movie a while ago - I didn't read any reviews, she was far from a nag or a nuisance - she was the adult for Christs sake (and yes, I felt for her when he ate all the yoghurts).

Am I imagining it, or wasn't there a scene where he wanted to have sex in a field? All I could think in that scene - or possibly some other time it was raised in the movie was 'NOOOOOO' - she couldn't possibly risk getting pregnant, how bloody dangerous that would be, and the idea of leaving your children alone to survive when something inevitably happens to you (since you were raised in easy street, and now everything, anything can kill you).

SPOILERs a bit for Passengers!

I think this is why I preferred that Jennifer Lawrence/Chris Pratt movie where they wake up early from cold sleep (I'll allow the plot device that makes this happen, despite what it says about the characters, because otherwise there isn't enough plot for the movie) - that there's none of that happy ending bullshit with kids and family etc. which you see in other movies. Because that would be a stupid decision to make in that circumstance.

athingthateveryoneneeds · 01/05/2018 15:14

The movie didn't address the idea of getting pregnant or the inherent dangers all around them, but yes, I agree that getting pregnant in such a situation is far too risky!

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Fem2019 · 19/01/2019 22:53

Just watched it and I agree with the op who started the thread. She wasn't heard throughout the movie and it killed her in the end. Really frustrating.

Unescorted · 19/01/2019 23:06

It is the worst film ever.

boatyardblues · 20/01/2019 08:28

Iceland looked great, though, and I wanted to visit again. (Misses point of thread)

Traveler001 · 20/01/2019 21:52

I thought passengers was even worse SPOILER because he got accidentally woken up and then CHOSE to wake up an attractive woman to have some company thereby ruining her future. She thought she would wake up hundreds of years later as a young woman on a new plant ready to start her life instead she has to live a lonely, boring existence with food rationed, no books, no people/choice of partner, no career or home or children or pets or whatever it is she wanted from life. What. An. Arsehole.

I agree the guy in Bokeh was a total twat but it wasn’t his fault that they were in that position, it’s his fault how he reacted to it whereas in passengers it was both.

I did enjoy both films with that aside because I do like apolocolypse/dystopian type stuff and seeing how people cope etc but it goes to show no matter how much the men who write/create/produce/whatever these films can think up and imagine in terms of technology, how to rebuild a society etc they can’t see beyond women cooking, cleaning and being controlled/their futures being determined by men.

boatyardblues · 20/01/2019 22:33

Great post Traveler, especially your final paragraph. 👏

MargueritaPink · 20/01/2019 22:48

I hated Passengers for that unforgivable plot device.

Traveler001 · 21/01/2019 09:26

Thank you boat.

Marguerita I agree, they should’ve done it where two pods malfunctioned. Maybe the wires were damaged or something and two pods next to each other broke or something. It was a good film apart from that bit because I spent the rest of it wondering how she didn’t murder him! I would’ve locked him out of the spaceship not shared my good food rations with him!

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