The Guardian shills for prostitution

[TerfinUSA]

Based on how wonderful it is to decriminalise it, in New South Wales.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/may/01/the-future-of-sex-work-a-photo-essay

The sex workers profiled are as Guardian-predictable as you'd expect. There's the trafficking-denialist head of the Scarlet Alliance (theuntameableshrews.com/2018/04/11/scarlet-alliance-sex-worker-collectives-misogyny-by-lily-munroe/)

There's the 'award-winning' founder of a charity that arranges prostitutes for disabled people.

There's the 'feminist' who says that 'mainstream feminists' have committed a 'great act of violence' against her. (strangely there's no mention of actual physical violence, just imaginary feminist violence).

There's an investment banker turned male-prostitute.

There's the inevitable 'transwoman of colour'.

There's the 'geek gamer' who plays computer games before having sex.

Have we reached Peak Guardian!??!

Where are all the class action lawsuits against the Oxford, Harvard, Cambridge, Collins - basically ALL the dictionaries for their awful trans-exclusionary definition of woman = adult human female

I was about to post the Bindel article too - I can't believe sex working has been described as skilled employment!
Also, I was told by a school principal last week of the game where young boys make their own prostitute, then have sex with her then kill her - and men want us to think this is a "career choice" for women.
I am so so angry that my abhorrence of sex work on feminist principles is seen as regressive and that porn and prostitution and violence against women is seen as progressive.
And DJLippy, totally with you in that I thought we would all be equal by now - we all forgot about the millennia of misogyny and thought it would all go away - we were so wrong.

I don't have a problem with the idea of selling/buying sex
I do. I don't know how we can have an equal society when men feel so entitled to orgasm they are happy to use money to waive consent. Or how they get off with a woman who wouldn't touch them with a bargepole under normal circumstances.

It is just grim. Have a walk instead ffs.

I don't have a problem with the idea of selling/buying sex

I do. I don't understand how any one can look at a man who is a punter and not think they are despicable.

Drunk drivers or illegal puppy farmers or men who go to dog fights or badger baiting- all scum , all lacking in empathy and humanity- all poisonous to decent society.

And this does need men to speak out. I was proud of my son when, looking for somewhere to have a drink in his university town, he commented on one place which I initially thought looked ok from the outset that it was for losers paying to gawp at women who wouldn't otherwise touch them with a bargepole. No prompting from me.

I thought the Nordic model would be a good solution, but apparently that hasn't worked out as well as people expected - sex workers' rights groups say it's made them less safe and more vulnerable to everything from rape to deportation.

There have been no murders of women in prostitution by punters or pimps since it was introduced. The "sex workers' rights groups" are shills for pimps. How, logically, would it make women in prostitution more vulnerable to rape or deportation? It makes no sense.

I don't have a problem with the idea of selling/buying sex

I agree with Lass on this.

I don't have a problem with the idea of selling/buying sex

I probably expressed that badly. I meant that I can imagine a world where sex could be exchanged for money, but it isn't the world we live in. It would have to be a world free of male violence and free of the shaming of women who have multiple sexual partners. I actually agree with what others said in response to that remark. But maybe there's not much point in thinking about imaginary worlds?

Sorry kittens
I was being a bit defensive due to too much arguing with the pro-prostitution lobby on here

No, I'm sorry Quentin - I should have expressed myself properly in the first place.

I didn't realise there was a pro-prostitution lobby here; I've probably been too obsessed by the trans threads and missed other stuff. I have friends who've worked in prostitution and I want to hear what they say, but I find it a very difficult subject.

The next slur after TERF is SWERF. Which is Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminist. Basically advocating the Nordic Model is whore-phobic. Sophie Walker from the Women's Equality Party took a lot of flack for this approach recently.

@RefuseToDenounceBiology "Tactical misuse of words. Feminists commit violence my arse."

Yes, I agree. Talking about violence constantly is an excuse to use violence against women.

I couldn't read much of that article, it's just so shit. It's an advert for prostitution. Why are the media adverting about it!

For any lurkers new to this topic...

In the Nordic model I believe that the women (or anyone) who are in prostitution have added protections, not fewer. It's still not a good chocie to have sex for money (IMHO) but at least under the Nordic model the prostitutes not the johns are (to some extent) 'protected'.

nordicmodelnow.org/what-is-the-nordic-model/

The comparison with anti smoking laws is very interesting.

nordicmodelnow.org/myths-about-prostitution/myth-regulation-makes-prostitution-safe/

nordicmodelnow.org/facts-about-prostitution/fact-prostitution-is-inherently-violent/ Trigger warning, some of it is a bit disturbing (to me, but then I am very sensitive).

Much more interesting reading than that article, IMHO.

What, again?

I reached Peak Guardian with the article about Cologne. You'd think there would be no way to top that, but they do seem to be determined to keep trying.

@Italiangreyhound
Thanks for those links