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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Spiked - we need to keep Trans policies out of schools

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Freespeecher · 27/04/2018 21:39

Not fans of the 'Trans Equality Toolkit.'

www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/transclassroom/21331

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Amethyst975 · 27/04/2018 22:51

"But the comparison between homosexuality and transgenderism made by today’s activists is simplistic and crude. It asks us to compare tolerance for an expanded human sexuality forged privately between consenting adults with publicly demanded changes in everyone’s behaviour, language and perception of reality. Someone who refuses to tolerate gay people might be a deeply unpleasant individual, but they do not invalidate the gay person’s right to exist and live as they choose. Yet the trans person, activists tell us, only exists through public acts of recognition. It is therefore vital that we collude with their demands, even if they impose a more constrained and conservative gender identity on us."

This bit stands out for me because I find the incessant comparisons of the trans movement with the gay rights movement exasperating.

ChattyLion · 28/04/2018 08:24

Agree that the appropriation of gay rights is misplaced.

T involves a different set of political arguments as LGB, though there may be some common features of the experience like being gender non-conforming.

But as these threads bear out from the experiences of many of us, being gender non conforming doesn’t necessarily mean anything to do with sexual orientation and is not a predictor of sexual orientation.

I’m not keen on the party line in Spiked most of the time but the article you linked to does make fair points.

However, this article by the same author patronises gender critical women, and I don’t think gives any great analysis of the issues:
www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/trans-vs-terfs-scrabbling-for-the-victim-highground/21115#.WuQf_RbTWEc

ChattyLion · 28/04/2018 08:34

I often find the tone on Spiked on many issues very privileged and individualistic if that’s the right word.
Just because something’s not a problem for them, Spiked journalists often refuse to see how it could be a problem for anyone else. Like in the article I linked to, the theme of ‘let’s stop framing all women as victims’, just feels like wanting to ignore the reality that a lot of women do have to deal with a whole load of nasty crap that many men don’t even register, it’s so far away from a typical male experience.

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