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Would you raise this issue? Unwittingly appropriating/laughing about a term for selling women

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RoderickRules · 21/04/2018 18:25

Community event for a good cause, one of the stands is going to customise zimmer frames and is being promoted as ‘pimp my zimmer’
I have an opportunity to speak to the organiser so I could raise this and ask them to reconsider, would you?

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northbynorthwesty · 21/04/2018 18:30

No.

littlecabbage · 21/04/2018 18:32

No, I wouldn't bother. Better to concentrate on more pressing issues of misogyny, rather than alienating people due to being pedantic.

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 21/04/2018 18:32

Doesn't pimp also mean Bling up these days?
As in Pimp My Ride?

Ellenripleysalienbaby · 21/04/2018 18:32

Hmmm, no I don't think I would. The word 'pimp' has also come to mean to customise something, usually in an OTT way, as in 'Pimp my Ride'. That is where it comes from and it is a different meaning to the prostitute pimp isn't it?

Mogleflop · 21/04/2018 18:33

Probably not. Pick your battles!

It's a popular thing (pimp my ride, my house, etc...) so if you were going to pick on anything it would be trying too hard to be Down With The Kids Grin

Ellenripleysalienbaby · 21/04/2018 18:33

Cross Post!

MaxineQuordlepleen · 21/04/2018 18:35

Yeah, I would. I’d suggest “posh” or “glam” my zimmer or anything really but that. It’s vile.

Greymisty · 21/04/2018 18:35

No.

Ellenripleysalienbaby · 21/04/2018 18:36

Posh my zimmer?

Confused
FlatTopVera · 21/04/2018 18:38

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Would you raise this issue? Unwittingly appropriating/laughing about a term for selling women
ShotsFired · 21/04/2018 18:38

@Ellenripleysalienbaby Hmmm, no I don't think I would. The word 'pimp' has also come to mean to customise something, usually in an OTT way, as in 'Pimp my Ride'. That is where it comes from and it is a different meaning to the prostitute pimp isn't it?

With nothing more than me thinking it, I assumed the pimp/OTT thing originated from movies and characters like Snoop Dog's Huggy bear in all his fur and fancy suits.

That said, I was idly wondering similarly to the OP the other day, about the use of "-porn" and "-gasm" suffixes. We happily use terms like "food porn" and "nerdgasm" despite the overtly sexual original meanings (I saw a poster on a stall which advertised "food porn" and wondered how you'd explain it to a kid).

Would you raise this issue? Unwittingly appropriating/laughing about a term for selling women
IdentifiesAsMiddleAged · 21/04/2018 18:53

No, I'd make like Elsa on this one

LassWiADelicateAir · 21/04/2018 18:55

The connection with prostitution is far too close for me.

And in relation to cars isn't it used in the sense of making something broken and worthless, a crap old banger look glitzy?

ErrolTheDragon · 21/04/2018 18:57

It always sounds to me like an unfortunate malapropism for 'primp'.

IdentifiesAsMiddleAged · 21/04/2018 18:59

Errol

That's interesting. I think that unconsciously, that's the association I have.

ijustwannadance · 21/04/2018 19:14

Eh? They are customising zimmer frames not prostituting the elderly.

Total non issue.

Angryresister · 21/04/2018 19:36

But language is important. They can use other words...I would say something.

DairyisClosed · 21/04/2018 19:40

I really do tend to think of pimping as meaning tastelessly customising (I'm in my early twenties). I had no idea about the pimping of prostitutes until my late teens (but only because I read it in a novel). I have never once heard it used in reference to prostitution. I have only ever heard it used ironically in regards to things being OTT or doing diy/having work done on something. E. G. 'Can' the come Sunday, my lawn is being pimped up. '

0phelia · 21/04/2018 19:41

Lol. Pimp my zimmer.
Like pimp my ride or pimp my room it's meant to be funny. Don't say anything you'll sound nuts.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/04/2018 19:47

I really do tend to think of pimping as meaning tastelessly customising (I'm in my early twenties). I had no idea about the pimping of prostitutes until my late teens (but only because I read it in a novel). I have never once heard it used in reference to prostitutio

My guess is that the zimmer owners are more likely to have only heard the prostitution meaning (or at least, for it to be the primary association).

I think I'd be inclined to innocently ask the organiser if they knew they'd dropped an r from 'primp'.

Pratchet · 21/04/2018 19:55

Yes I would. Have challenged casual talk on the edges of prostitution at risk of being seen as a sourpuss.

Pratchet · 21/04/2018 19:55

Zing up my zimmer

SenecaFalls · 21/04/2018 20:07

The connection with prostitution is far too close for me.

Same for me. I think the still somewhat emerging meaning of making something more showy should be retreated from, not advanced.

Pimps exploit women. There is nothing funny or cute about the connotation.

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 21/04/2018 20:23

Pimp is totally rooted in sexual exploitation and the normalisation of the sex industry.

The whole thing of 'bitches' relates to it to as in 'is she your bitch?'.

'Pimping' is about ownership and control and how in poor communities the flashiest most ostentatious men are those who have 'bitches' to finance their glamorous lifestyles and are therefore aspirational figures.

Snoop Dogg has actually been in porn and he has exploited women.

The words 'pimp' as in 'pimp my ride', 'porn' as in 'food porn', and 'bitch' to mean 'my bitches' - all relate to the period about 20 years ago when the sex industry was being mainstreamed.

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 21/04/2018 20:27

Here's a nice picture of Snoop Dogg demonstrating his utmost respect for women.

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