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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is Gender Dysmorphia an acceptable term?

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georgethefeck · 18/04/2018 21:13

Is it considered offensive to say that someone trans has gender dysmorphia? I'm not asking for personal opinions on this I just wondered if it was generally accepted that's what it is and if it's generally acceptable to say or not?

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Jayceedove · 20/04/2018 21:35

There are other exemptions even with a GRC - where there is no protected right of access to spaces such as refuges that can be denied if circumstances are considered reasonable and possession of a GRC does not override that.

Usually these are dealt with on a one to one basis in rare instances where the matter arises given how few people have a GRC.

HopScotchy · 20/04/2018 21:36

Then the GRA could be amended to provide a right to a specified ID document(s) for use in everyday situations to avoid 'outing' with no serious effect on the lives of trans people. The alternative is self ID into the opposite sex and all the issues that brings for women. Self ID into a marker on standard ID in situations where sex isn't an issue for women isn't an issue for women I don't think.

HopScotchy · 20/04/2018 21:41

This is where the guidance given in how to apply the law directly misinterprets the actual law. The guidance states a GRC means should not be excluded in any circumstances. This is an area I would really like clarity on. It's so important to understand that specific issue. And how would an org question a birth cert or is there another way they can ask for proof of sex? Does a DBS check flag it when it's relevant? And if it's not a DBS situation how is this raised and/evidenced?

Jayceedove · 20/04/2018 21:48

The original birth certificate is not destroyed but is not openly accessible. But is in cases of legitimate need, such as a criminal investigation.

spontaneousgiventime · 20/04/2018 21:55

JC Do you know what happened to marriages where one partner transitioned before equal marriage. Did the marriage have to be dissolved?

Jayceedove · 20/04/2018 21:55

I suggested in another thread the other day that there needed to be a government effort to get legal clarification of the interaction between the GRA and the Equality Act on definitions and exclusions.

I argued this was a positive step that could be taken now by pressing for these. But I left the thread as I had apparently derailed it.

So I don't think anyone progressed that suggestion.

HopScotchy · 20/04/2018 21:56

Ok, thanks. Just as an aside none of this currently takes sex based rights into account whatsoever. So whilst the law wants to know sex in a criminal case we have a female victim of male violence being denied the right to identify the sex of her attacker as male as part of her evidence. It's a mess. And this needs to be sorted out for both of our sakes.

Jayceedove · 20/04/2018 21:58

Indeed - which was why I suggested it in the earlier thread.

Trousersdontmakemeaman · 20/04/2018 22:00

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Trousersdontmakemeaman · 20/04/2018 22:07

jayceedove, you are a love here. You are creating an amazing archive of your writing here, I hope you have a book deal!

HopScotchy · 20/04/2018 22:15

Yes, JayceeDove, I'm very grateful to you for sharing your intimate knowledge and making it accessible to those of us without your experience. It's very helpful. I haven't seen the 'derailed' thread but I'm sure I'd disagree with that assessment of your contribution.

Jayceedove · 20/04/2018 22:34

Thank you, I possibly do overdo the anecdotes at times. I have always loved writing.

Hence the derailing might be a genuine perception in places. I see that.

But do not think anyone would want me to write a book. That's for sure.

Just happy to help on here when I can.

Caldonia · 21/04/2018 20:12

Agree with PP, you write well. May be a book might be something to think about?!

I think that scrutiny of the various relevant legislation, and how it works, and doesn't work, together would be good.

MsMcWoodle · 21/04/2018 20:16

Let's talk about women and girls.

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