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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What’s the deal with Dr Christian?

62 replies

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 16/04/2018 16:55

This tweet
“Some really vile views being spouted on twitter tonight. Such a shame. ‘When she was good she was very good indeed, but when she was bad she was horrid.’”
Seems to be about women discussing their issues with trans/self ID/free speech debate. Women know your place, and it certainly isn’t anywhere you can be heard!

mobile.twitter.com/DoctorChristian/status/984569562715836418

And also here and all over his timeline.
mobile.twitter.com/leekartspace/status/984426339364155396

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RedToothBrush · 16/04/2018 19:55

Yes it was Josie Cunningham

His other controversial moments include:

elegantgatheringofwhitesnows.com/?p=194
Blog about the time he got upset about false rape claims

closeronline.co.uk/real-life/opinion/dr-christian-causes-twitter-controversy-paedophilia-isn-t-choice/
The time he said paedophilia isn't a choice.

m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/07/20/dr-christian-jessen-drugs-grindr-gay-app-channel-4-embarrassing-bodies_n_7830864.html
The time he got caught on grindr boasting about drug use and then said it was what you did to pull as a gay man

www.laleche.org.uk/dr-christian-jessens-controversial-breastfeeding-remarks/
What he's said about breastfeeding in the past (first half of this is fine. Its the 2014 comments further down in the article which are controversial).

He has body dysmorphia (which is why he has so many muscles) which might also explain his position on this subject.

PeterManYum · 16/04/2018 20:05

I had no idea he was such an arsehole!

FlaviaAlbia · 16/04/2018 20:09

Good grief. That's a lot of issues.

I didn't realise he was gay, I wonder how he would react if he was told he should sleep with a trans man?

ChattyLion · 16/04/2018 20:50

Hes been saying judgemental sexist stuff for years, very disappointing given the whole apparently open minded ‘Embarrassing Illnesses’ shtick.

lynmilne65 · 16/04/2018 21:05

Can't we just give trans a rest ? boooring now

megletthesecond · 16/04/2018 21:07

He's a nasty piece of work. He was bloody awful to a woman last week when she said how hard parenting was.

chicklingpixies · 16/04/2018 21:10

I was once in a taxi queue with the kiddles (+a fresh baby in a sling) and we were pretty tired after a long train journey and he barged in and hailed the cab and we had to wait for another one.

FlaviaAlbia · 16/04/2018 21:11

Just saw that Meg, wow...

OlennasWimple · 16/04/2018 21:25

His comments on medical transition vs support of children look OK though?

SpringNowPlease2018 · 16/04/2018 21:32

@CapnHaddock " Their sympathy lies entirely with TIMs because they can't imagine anything more distressing than actually wanting to be a woman"

I'm confused, wouldn't that make them anti TIM?

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 16/04/2018 21:34

Can't we just give trans a rest ? boooring now

I have an issue with him basically telling women they must play nice because they are women. It could be about any subject.

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LangCleg · 16/04/2018 22:12

Gosh, what a charmer this one is.

redshoeblueshoe · 16/04/2018 22:31

lyn - this is not a trans thread.
But if you're looking for one I'm sure we could point you in the right direction Grin

CapnHaddock · 16/04/2018 23:16

@SpringNowPlease2018 - they feel pity for TIMs. They think women are disgusting.

Cheetoburrito · 17/04/2018 00:26

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LassWiADelicateAir · 17/04/2018 00:52

Any lawyers explain why age of consent is 16 (implied that too immature to consent if younger) but age of criminal responsibility is 10?!

I think his point was that the age for criminal responsibility was too low not that the age of consent was too high.

Battleax · 17/04/2018 00:53

It’s always helpful to know who the arseholes ARE, of course.

LassWiADelicateAir · 17/04/2018 01:10

WhereYouLeftIt You posted a twitter link to a tweet Dr Christian made about age of consent. In the comment thread, Tom Scott links to a wikipedia article about "The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon", which explains why the Victorians raised the age of consent. It's chilling

I can't find anything in that twitter thread suggesting anything other than the point he was making was that 10 was too low for children to be criminally responsible, not that age of consent was too high.

I noticed on the thread about Janet Mock that the "fact" invariably repeated on FWR when her name crops up turns out to be a very creative interpretation of what she actually said- is this the same?

Cheetoburrito · 17/04/2018 01:51

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SonicVersusGynaephobia · 17/04/2018 07:39

I have disliked Christian for a rather long time now. I find him incredibly misogynistic and his attitudes to women and their issues, and his bullying of vulnerable women on twitter, extremely alarming.

AnyFucker · 17/04/2018 07:46

Proper asshat that one. I once called him out on one of his womanhating comments on twitter and he blocked me

FencingFightingTorture35 · 17/04/2018 08:03

I think his point was that the age for criminal responsibility was too low not that the age of consent was too high.

I can't back it up at this point so probably best to drop this point but I am convinced there was more to the tweet than this. It ended up as a long spat with lots of tweets because people were so agog. He might well have since deleted his responses.

I'm not on Twitter and I'm afraid I don't want to go wading through his tweets to locate it. Shudder.

CallingDannyBoy · 17/04/2018 08:09

Cheeto burrito - unfortunately not much has changed - Rochdale, Telford. The children weren’t charged but weren’t seen as blameless.

LassWiADelicateAir · 17/04/2018 09:04

I don't know who Janet Mock is, or what FWR is

FWR is the forum you are posting on.

LassWiADelicateAir · 17/04/2018 09:14

I'm not on Twitter and I'm afraid I don't want to go wading through his tweets to locate it

Neither am I - another poster posted the link to the conversation. It didn't take very long to read and it did not say anything like what was being suggesting.

Janet Mock is an American trans woman and writer . She gets mentioned often on this forum and always with a "fact" which is very damaging to her reputation. There was a thread about her yesterday and it turns out that this "fact" is a very creative interpretation of what she actually said.

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