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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Queer Theory Glossary

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 11/04/2018 12:39

transwidow.wordpress.com/2018/04/04/queer-theory-glossary/

V funny, especially the 'non binary' definition

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HerFemaleness · 11/04/2018 12:47

Transmisogyny – When straight white men can’t get other people to say the things they want them to say, and it feels worse than any form of oppression anyone else on the planet has ever experienced.

Arf arf. Very true.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 11/04/2018 12:57
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WeAreGerbil · 11/04/2018 12:59

Lesbian – A man in his 40’s who works in IT and started wearing his wife’s panties last year.

And

Intersectionality – Remembering to include a variety of different types of men in your feminism.

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TheGoldenBough · 11/04/2018 14:22

Haha, definitely!

Pansexual – Someone who likes men who dress in masculine clothes and men who dress in feminine clothes.

Completely describes the only 'pansexual' person I know!! Grin

Ereshkigal · 11/04/2018 15:17

Oh wow that is perfect! Grin

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 11/04/2018 17:12

That's really funny, and accurate.

pombear · 11/04/2018 20:06

Assigned, thanks for sharing this link. (Sorry, no idea how to bold your name!)

I fear this thread may disappear, seeing as the other one with a little humour did too, but I found it really enlightening as I went to the link, but then read transwidow's entire blog.

Her history of losing her husband to AGPtrans - the similarity starting to build with so many women's stories about their experience of a partner who decides they are a 'woman'. The behaviour, the disappearance into a pit of narcissism. The lack of empathy for others.

She writes with such passion and love for a person she sees disappearing in front of her. It mirrors so much of what we've heard from others, and also gives so much background context to why the online TRAs who are late 'transitioners' say and do what they do.

I'd recommend anyone to spend some time reading through her blog.

WidowWadman · 11/04/2018 21:01

How feminist is taking the piss out of minorities? Not very.

SirVixofVixHall · 11/04/2018 21:06

Haha that is brilliant.

pombear · 11/04/2018 21:26

WidowWagman - have a read of transwidow's entire blog and then tell me they're not qualified to have a point of view on this subject, and at least some humour in a dark, dark experience. Read it. Read it all. Read her erasure. Read her loss of her marriage. Read her experience.

I am tired of being told 'being feminist' is being 'nice'.

I am concerned that the definition of ''minorities' is starting to become slightly blurred. The word that many of us who are female championed for so many years, recognising being oppressed in different ways.

The word 'appropriation' comes to me.

i've watched Tara Hewitt recently (who was quoted by someone else championing trans theories in another thread - oh, and thanks Sue, waving to you, cos you made me google Tara a bit more, seeing that you listed Tara in her informed role as Trans Equality Lead) in a film telling a room full of health care professionals that AGP is included in 'trans' definitions. Tara told me in that film that those who are sexually aroused by dressing as a woman are included as 'trans'. Tara then told me in that film that we shoudn't judge people for their sexual fetishes. (I agree, unti it impacts others. It is impacting others - that impact needs to stop).

Tara also told the room that it's nice and caring to refer to someone's penis as a clitoris, and someone's clitoris as a cock. I'm sure it is, but if Tara stands by her AGP inclusion in trans, that may also mean you're asking healthcare professionals to be complicit in a sexual fantasy.

Her last comment, that transwomen who may have to have a mastectomy would potentially suffer more than biological women from that trauma was the thing that blew me away most. (And probably most of the people in that room - funnily enough, no one had any questions for 'her' after that comment).

What world have we stepped into here?

WidowWadman · 11/04/2018 21:30

A post taking the piss out of queer people really doesn't make me want to read her whole blog. This place has become really really unpleasant, and the goadiness seems to be escalating.

Ereshkigal · 11/04/2018 21:31

Her last comment, that transwomen who may have to have a mastectomy would potentially suffer more than biological women from that trauma was the thing that blew me away most.

That's a jaw dropping comment. And why would anyone think it would be true?

thebewilderness · 11/04/2018 21:32

What world have we stepped into here?
The world of the malignant narcissist with an AGP fetish.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 11/04/2018 21:47

The point is that it's Queer 'theory'. Not fact

Theory is open for debate and interpretation. And yes, also calling it out as bollocks

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pombear · 11/04/2018 21:57

That's the thing WidowWadman. Lots of people don't dig deeper, so just make assumptions based on initial interpretation.

I keep digging down, both into the trans/TRA perspective, to try to understand it and make sure I'm not jumping to conclusions.

And to those who are less sympathetic to the trans message. To those who have different lived experiences.

I don't stop reading at anyone's surface level post, or a post that's been shared by others.

That's why I suggested you read further. I read further, every time someone posts something.

That's why I discovered transwidow's experience, and Tara Hewitt's films.

And made my own mind up.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 11/04/2018 22:03

"And made my own mind up"

You're a heretic Pom and will suffer the fate of heretics

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pombear · 11/04/2018 22:24

True, Assigned, true. That would be the case, if I lived in twitter-land/politics. As I know you don't either!

And I doubt I am, a heretic as per the definition as 'opposed to what is normally accepted'.

Because, when I go there into my normal, non-twitter world, most people would beileve what I believe too.

I asked a friend the other day 'do you know what 'cis' means'?' Funnily enough, she'd never heard of the word. We had a long conversation. She's a lifelong labour voter, like me. May not be in future. Like me.

I suspect a lot of people I know would be surprised too. We just need to keep having that rational, informed conversation.

I know how much it pisses the TRAs off. But I'll keep having that conversation.

ElenOfTheWays · 11/04/2018 23:12

WidowWagman since when are straight white men a minority?

AnitaLovesVictor · 11/04/2018 23:25

That is v funny Grin

LadyGrey18 · 11/04/2018 23:27

Lesbian – A man in his 40’s who works in IT and started wearing his wife’s panties last year.

Statements like this are not 'taking the piss out of minorities'. As a lesbian, this is not taking the piss out of me - but out of the privileged, abusive, straight men who are appropriating our identity, harassing us and taking over our organisations and communities.

AnitaLovesVictor · 11/04/2018 23:29

TERF – A mature woman who goes about her business without thinking about men enough. The party that should be held responsible when a redneck man beats up a male prostitute.

Has to be the top comment for me. My emphasis. Not thinking about men enough is obviously a crime.

AnitaLovesVictor · 11/04/2018 23:31

The day women not thinking about men enough is some sort of prejudice, or oppression of minorities, and worthy of suppression on Mumsnet is the day I leave MN tbh.

thebewilderness · 11/04/2018 23:33

White males are indeed a minority of the world population.
I discovered a few years ago that they are not aware of this when we were discussing on tumblr the disproportionate number of Nobel prizes that go to the white male.
Many of them mansplained to me that they are the majority population and that is why they give themselves the most prizes. When I explained that white males only made up 30% of the US population they were horrified. Much hilarity ensued.

AnitaLovesVictor · 11/04/2018 23:40

The thing about white men, is they kind of always dominate wherever they are. South Africa/India - outnumbered by god knows how many - still dominant. Men everywhere - still dominant.

My dad worked in Indonesia - he was revered. As a white male. Actually I was revered as a white female, when I visited, and my adult brother was revered as a young white male - who was definitely eyed up as a ticket out of poverty. But I digress.

AnitaLovesVictor · 11/04/2018 23:49

I realise I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, there, bewilderness. The words don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs come to mind...