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Molly Ringwald essay

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IndominusRex · 07/04/2018 09:48

This has been all over twitter but sharing for anyone not on there. Molly Ringwald writes about her films in he context of me too
www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/what-about-the-breakfast-club-molly-ringwald-metoo-john-hughes-pretty-in-pink/amp

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boatyardblues · 07/04/2018 10:12

Interesting article. Thank you for sharing.

comfortandjoy · 07/04/2018 10:13

Thanks I enjoyed it.

QuentinSummers · 07/04/2018 13:44

Really interesting thank you

RealityHasALiberalBias · 07/04/2018 18:22

She’s a wonderful writer. I still love Pretty In Pink and The Breakfast Club, though I cringe at several scenes. I never cared for Sixteen Candles and it’s practically unwatchable now.

80s films can be so interesting - the struggle between portraying liberated women and falling back on old-fashioned tittialting sexism is written through them like a stick of rock.

Poor Melanie Griffith in Working Girl - it’s a superficially feminist film but she still has to parade around in lingerie all the time. Who vacuums topless and in heels?? No wonder Susan Faludi gave that film short shrift!

headfried · 07/04/2018 21:31

Beautifully written article.

Still love the film but very grateful for Molly Ringwald's mum! Had she not stepped in and removed the proposed scene with the naked female teacher, think I would have hated it.

noraclavicle · 07/04/2018 22:31

Great essay - just read it aloud to DH. We watched Sixteen Candles for the first time recently and hated it! The Breakfast Club makes for uncomfortable viewing in the 21st century too.

HelenaDove · 15/04/2018 00:55

ive just read this article I remember watching the National Lampoon films like Animal House when i was 15 and it was only when i got older i thought ...............errr hang on.

I also cant help noticing the fat shaming that National Lampoon Hughes, etc did Couldnt see any thin shaming mentioned in the article.

Funny that when we have people over on AIBU insisting that thin shaming is on the same par......... well how can it be If it was it would certainly have featured just as highly on the writing agenda back then as fat shaming did.

HelenaDove · 15/04/2018 00:56

I have never seen Sixteen Candles.

DannyLaRuesBestFrock · 15/04/2018 01:54

I watched sixteen candles and I thought it was absolutely disgusting. There is a scene where a girl has been drugged and she is 'out of it' and is given permission by a fella 'to do what he wants' to her.

I am an 80s kid and love all things 80s, but I will never show my dd that film.

DannyLaRuesBestFrock · 15/04/2018 01:55

Re-watching stuff is bloody eye opening.

SophoclesTheFox · 15/04/2018 08:50

That's a fascinating article. I loved those films when I was a kid, but have the same ambivalence about them now.

BrashCandicoot · 15/04/2018 09:03

I read that a couple of weeks ago, it's interesting! I haven't seen Sixteen Candles, but recognise what she talks about from other films of the era (Clark Griswold in the department store Christmas shopping, half of what Bill Murray gets up to in Ghostbusters, off the top of my head). It makes me think twice about allowing the DC to watch the films DH and I both enjoyed growing up.

Irishfeminist · 15/04/2018 13:03

I can't believe I fancied Bender when I was 13, he was an abusive asshole! Molly Ringwald writes really well. I did hate the way the Ally Sheedy character got made over even at the time. She was a style icon for me and my little goth friends.

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