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Excellent article by trans woman - "A Plea To Trans Activists: We Can Protect Trans Rights Without Denying Biology"

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Italiangreyhound · 04/04/2018 01:33

Excellent article by trans woman - "A Plea To Trans Activists: We Can Protect Trans Rights Without Denying Biology"

quillette.com/2018/03/30/plea-trans-activists-can-protect-trans-rights-without-denying-biology/

Don't necessarily expect any chit chat on it, just wanted to promote it as it is very good and very clear.

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HomeTerf · 04/04/2018 11:04

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LoopOfHenle · 04/04/2018 12:28

Love this article, thank you Debbie if you're around

RedToothBrush · 04/04/2018 12:31

Of course the cynic in me might also consider how in modern politics with Cambridge Analyticas micro targetting in the news, how having a handy group to deliberately provoke micro aggressions might be a deliberate ploy to attract people who buy into identity politics into your canp and entrench them. (Paper I was reading last night about micro aggressions which I linked to on the LD LGBT thread, is utterly fascinating and thought provoking.

If this is the case and is deliberate from political parties, it would favour a hard left / hard right / extreme liberal identity / extreme authoritarian identity model to do fuck all to resolve conflict.

In which case TRAs would be being used and the political party would have no real interest in making life better for trans people in reality. Indeed these political parties would have a vested interest in shitting all over trans people and creating a hostile environment for them, so they have a victim on tap to role out for pr purposes...

...and would show an even bigger contempt for women than you already might think.

I'd love for a party to prove me wrong, and show they give a shit about society and aren't totally obsessed with power.

rowdywoman1 · 04/04/2018 12:36

I am always glad when RedToothBrush shares her analysis. I don't know how you know that you know Red, but just as on the Brexit threads, you always shed light when you speak. Thank you.

RealityHasALiberalBias · 04/04/2018 14:31

RedToothBrush I've wondered the same thing about how much of the online heat is being generated by the likes of professional agitators who are being paid to contribute to the destabilisation of our politics.

Of course enough of the abusive tweets are real, but it's impossible to know who is behind the keyboard these days. It's all very worrying for democracy.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 04/04/2018 15:05

RedToothBrush StarStarStarGin

HawkeyeInConfusion · 04/04/2018 19:29

Very eloquent redtoothbrush. I wish the politicians would listen to you.

Materialist · 04/04/2018 19:38

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RedToothBrush · 05/04/2018 10:48

I come from a place where politics arrived with a bomb when I was 14.

Politics therefore were not something that were not something that didn't touch me. To understand the world, I had to understand politics.

To move on, you have to have someone prepared to step in and talk of reconciling differences.

This is why I get just so annoyed at the politicians for not understanding or valuing that.

This is why trans fits in with the wider politics of division today, where we have retreated to our own communities and they just yell into social media, instead of sorting this out properly.

This is perhaps why I am just so disgusted by Jeremy Corbyn and Jo Swinson (I've not seen comment by Vince Cable, so thats why I mention her).

Jeremy Corbyn has built a reputation as a 'man of peace'. The LD are supposed to be the centrist party and to believe in moderation in politics.

But when it comes to the crunch they are indulging in what? Where are they? What are they doing to resolve the situation? To build political consensus. In any area.

For all the platitudes of 'more in common' that they hail as virtuous there this.

Part of the process isn't merely to go we are all alike. It is to celebrate why we are different and why that is actually ok. Its this thing of respect.

That's why I struggle so much. Every effort thrown back in the face because you don't simply agree and don't simply conform.

The world would be a worst place if we had to do that.

I'm a bit emotional, as i've just watch Patrick Kielty's excellent documentary 'my dad, the peace deal and me' which has reminded me of just why I got into politics and studied journalism in the first place.

I've had enough of them and us politics. Nothing good ever comes of it.

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