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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The tyranny of tolerance

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ISaySteadyOn · 31/03/2018 20:13

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/03/30/tolerance-taken-feminism-threatens-destroy-movement/

I thought this was brilliant. Anyone else?

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ISaySteadyOn · 31/03/2018 20:15

Thanks. I don't know how to do links on my phone.

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SusanBunch · 31/03/2018 20:19

Yes I thought it was good too. We always have to yield and make space for others. We can’t talk about our own experiences or biology because we might upset others. It doesn’t matter if we get upset of course. We are told that we are privileged just because we live in the bodies we were born with and don’t pretend to be anything else.

terryleather · 31/03/2018 20:26

Yes, good piece thanks for the link.

Expecting women to display tolerance at their own and other women's expense is yet another example of why can't you just be nice????

thebewilderness · 31/03/2018 21:17

There is a constant pressure in every interaction with men for women to mover from tolerance to submission. We also see the social pressure in the stories men tell about themselves in the entertainment media.

Badgerthebodger · 31/03/2018 23:22

I found this a really interesting article. I’m 31, and while I would have always described myself as a feminist it’s only in the last 3 or 4 years that I have begun to notice the systematic patriarchal oppression which we accept unquestioningly.

I shy away from discussing it with the vast majority of my friends (apart from the two who are nearest and dearest - they might not always agree with me but we all enjoy giving ideas and debate a good airing with wine ) “Intersectional” feminism is the absolute norm amongst my peers and my sisters.

I feel like it is hugely important to think critically about the way women are oppressed in today’s society. I think there’s a danger of lots of younger (and probably older too) women feeling like the job is done and we can now concentrate on how we include others. This is a great article because it names that problem and reminds women that we don’t need to be inclusive and budge up. In fact, we are only doing this because we have been conditioned to do so by the latest incarnation of patriarchy.

FedUpWithBriiiiiick · 31/03/2018 23:27

Really, really excellent 👍

ISaySteadyOn · 01/04/2018 07:57

I really struggle with the feeling of Why can't you just be nice? towards myself. DH saw the problems with transactivism long before I did and said so. I was cross with him at the time because he wasn't being nice, but being nice is not always helpful as we now see.

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flowersonthepiano · 01/04/2018 08:13

Thanks for posting this. It really struck a chord. I have been one of those women who swallowed this crap until recently. I'm learning quickly what a sheep I've been. It's embarrassing. This passage in particular stood out.

The idolized image of the “trans inclusive” feminist in Western identity politics has become a marker for whether a woman is truly apologetic for her female body — apologetic enough to render it meaningless

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