Campaign for home use of abortion pills

[Cwenthryth]

Re-posting this in chat as I originally posted in feminist activism but don’t think anyone noticed!

Please share & sign this open letter to Jeremy Hunt & Vaughan Gething calling for home use of abortion pills, so women are not forced to miscarry their pregnancies in public.

www.womensequality.org.uk/homeuse?utm_campaign=launch_homeuse_mem&utm_medium=email&utm_source=womensequality

'2054 signatures currently'

This is Feminism Chat. It should not be that difficult to get this up to 5k signatures. Do I sound like I'm hectoring and trying to make a point? If it gets more signatures, then hell yes.

Re-posting this in chat as I originally posted in feminist activism but don’t think anyone noticed

"Feminist activism" is one of the least active threads on the forum. I don't know why MNHQ keeps it and the other feminist sub forums.

It is not clear (to me anyway) what qualifies a topic to go into "Feminist Support" or "Feminist Activism" or "Feminist Theory" but the chances of getting a reply or a conversation going in any of them are slim.

I know, I’ve been disappointed at the lack of response, honesty it felt like it got lost in the sea of trans threads and then perhaps because people don’t like WEP around here.

I guess if we used the activism and theory boards for posts regarding activism/actions and discussions on feminist theory then the main feminism chat board would be easier to follow!

I have always been in the “don’t separate the trans threads” camp.... starting to waiver.

It might help if HQ changed the title from Campaign to Petition. More people would realise it is something they can do right now.

I'm throughly unimpressed with the WEP but I will sign something I think is important and I think many others will.

This is about the first sensible thing I have seen from the WEP. I think WEP would achieve far more as a single issue campaign group like Shelter or Greenpeace than as a political party.

Yes I know the Green Party has now got real MPs and MSPs but it has taken a very long time (and the Green MSPs rarely seem to address actual green issues)

@Cwenthryth

Maybe ask if HQ can change the thread title so it starts, "Traannnsss Thread. Not really, but at least I've got your attention"

Don't know why i hadn't seen this thread before, will sign and share. Thanks for posting.

Not sure about this, as dd had major problem when the pills didn't actually work and resulted in an ectopic pregnancy , which at a very late stage a locus GP recognised. Waiting for op, it burst and she nearly died. I ws really grateful for medical oversight though think there should have been more to check on outcome of morning after pill.
Dds fertility compromised as a result.

Hehe Haru that proper made me chuckle

Angry sounds like a horrible ordeal for your daughter. Was that with morning after pill or a medical abortion?

This campaign is to allow women the choice to take medical abortion pills at home. Currently (in England and Wales) they have to take them in a clinic, and then go home for the abortion to take place. As many stories attest this can lead to women experiencing symptoms or even the entire miscarriage on the way home, on transport, in public etc. So it wouldn’t help with the issue of pregnancy persisting undetected after the abortion pills, that would still require adequate follow up.

@Angryresister

Not to diminish what your daughter went through, but even if this measure had been in place, I can't see how it would have altered the situation. In most clinics it's a case of 'take the tablets, out the door before the side effects kick in, next please' with any problematic side effects occurring once the patient is away from the clinic. It's already the case that patients are trusted to self-report problems and seek medical attention if they do experience a reaction to abortion tablets once they've left the clinic, the problem comes from having to drag women unnecessarily into a clinic to take them in the first place. In no other situation can I think of a case where it's necessary for a patient to attend a clinic to orally take a tablet that, in other circumstances, are already being dispensed to be taken at home.

Signed

Signed and Dp signed too

Bump

I'm not sure if they're easy to access without having to go through medical professionals anyway, and if so this would be irrelevant, but could part of the reason for the pills being taken with a medical professional there rather than at home be to avoid them being in circulation?

I'm thinking there could be situations where a man who didn't want to be a dad could then get the pills through someone he knows and slip them to the pregnant woman.

Signed

8 years ago it was a case of staying in hospital until it was all out.
Would it not be traumatising and potentially dangerous to do at home?

Now staying in a hospital or clinic is never routinely offered.
So it's take the second pill in a clinic, leave, perhaps for a long journey, and have to manage whatever happens. Wouldn't it be better to be at home, at a time of your choosing, rather than on a bus?
Because that's what's currently happening.

I'm thinking there could be situations where a man who didn't want to be a dad could then get the pills through someone he knows and slip them to the pregnant woman.

Not really very likely in my view. He'd have to find a pregnant woman in her first trimester who was willing to pretend she wanted a termination and then get her to go through the whole appointment procedure.

I briefly considered the possibility of women getting these pills to sell on, but dismissed it as equally unlikely.

I can't think of a logical reason why women shouldn't be allowed to take these pills at home. If there was a risk to health then women would have to stay in hospital for the duration, the fact they're allowed to leave at all suggests the risk is minimal.

Signed ✅

Also signed.

I’m all for choice and dignity for woman in this situation but is it not for their safety? I was present with my friend whilst she was terminating a pregnancy and she was in agony x

I’m also thinking perhaps it has something to do with taking the second pill - the doctor/nurse needs to see the patient take both pills. If the patient doesn’t take the second pill then there might be medical complications such as a missed miscarriage? I’m sure a qualified medical professional can enlighten us on this!

@Ohdearyme2018 I'm not sure what you mean? That it's for women's safety that they must take the pills in a medical setting, but then be immediately allowed to leave?

If you read the link in the OP it's clear that women who have miscarried and are having the same pills are allowed to take the second one at home without medical supervision.