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Peak trans

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winefortea · 27/03/2018 20:56

What does the phrase 'I've reached peak trans' mean? I've seen it many times on numerous threads here, but even taking into account the contexts it has been used in, I'm still not quite sure what it means. Googling hasn't helped me either, so please could someone explain. Apologies if it is obvious and I'm being dense.
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HakunaDentata · 27/03/2018 21:10

@winefortea it's when you take the blue pill i.e. you realise there's more to the whole trans movement than meets the eye.
There's a few threads but here's one:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3158049-i-ve-reached-trans-peak

thebewilderness · 27/03/2018 21:15

It is that point at which you can no longer suspend your disbelief and the benefit of the doubt has gone up in smoke and you fall back to the material reality that it isn't actually possible to be born in the wrong persons body, despite the stories in speculative fiction and the corporate media.

NotTerfNorCis · 27/03/2018 21:17

It's when someone who was supportive of trans ideology or at least indifferent towards it hears something that makes them think 'hang on that's not right. That's gone too far now'.

In my case I remember that there was a lot of trans stuff in the news towards the end of 2016. I was interested and watched a few programmes about it, at least one about kids 'born trans'. I was dubious but still on the fence until I saw the reaction to the 2017 Women's March, when TRAs told feminists that they weren't allowed to wear pussy hats because anything linking being a woman to female anatomy was transphobic. Some of the feminists apologised! If I'd been more aware I would have peaktransed earlier, maybe when Caitlyn Jenner got a Woman of the Year award, or when I saw people being rebuked and belittled for their 'cis privilege'.

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winefortea · 27/03/2018 21:48

Thanks, have just read through Hakuna's linked thread and from there onto another thread in which Datun described it as climbing a hill - I think I have definitely started to climb that hill!

This line of Datun's post really struck a chord with me:
"You look at the handful of men with gender dysphoria and how to include them, and wish, with all your heart, that it could be that simple again."
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me?messages=100&pg=1

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SighForAChange · 27/03/2018 21:54
Wine

Welcome to the rocky slopes of the peaktrans mountain!

BlackeyedSusan · 27/03/2018 22:36

yep a month or so ago the feminist board was some weird bit of mumsnet that I never clicked on. can't remember what made me do it. which is bloody annoying

TerfWarz · 27/03/2018 22:40

The thing that I've found to be true is that I think I've peaked and then something else happens like "dv done wrong" and I peak all over again.

I don't know if peak trans is really the right phrase because what what is really happening is that I'm reaching new levels of understanding around just how much men hate women (and are using trans rights movement as a cover).

0phelia · 27/03/2018 22:53

Most people describe it as going from "I accept any males who feel like women. They must have a deep sympathy and understanding of womanhood, and what's the harm"

To-

"Oh, these males are not understanding of womanhood at all. I cannot accept this"

Buf I'm glad you found Datun's post re climbing a hill. It is a great analogy.

WhereYouLeftIt · 27/03/2018 22:56

For me, peaktrans (or indeed peak anything) is that scales-falling-from-the-eyes moment. When you suddenly see that the Emperor is indeed wearing no clothes, and you're the child pointing and saying 'he's naked!'. And wondering how you didn't see it before. Because you genuinely didn't see it before, but now you do.

LangCleg · 27/03/2018 23:03

The thing that I've found to be true is that I think I've peaked and then something else happens like "dv done wrong" and I peak all over again.

I also seem to "re-peak" at least twice a week.

Yesterday, it was 4th Wave Now challenging trans/LGBT media to cover the scandal of the surgeon performing phalloplasties on FTMs in the US and who is now up to EIGHT malpractice suits with some real horror stories attached. Only one responded and that was to vilify 4th Wave for even asking the question. None of them give a shit about a rogue surgeon if it's FTMs and not TIMs.

Today, it's the reveal of the full details of Jane Fae's past activism about extreme porn and the connections with other TRAs.

I'm just hoping that's my only two peaks this week!

thebewilderness · 27/03/2018 23:21

I confess I never reached peak trans because I never accepted the belief that a person could be born in the wrong body.
I do accept that people can dissociate from their body to the point where they think it is not theirs.

SeaWitchly · 28/03/2018 07:02

The thing that I've found to be true is that I think I've peaked and then something else happens like "dv done wrong" and I peak all over again.

I don't know if peak trans is really the right phrase because what what is really happening is that I'm reaching new levels of understanding around just how much men hate women (and are using trans rights movement as a cover).

Agree with this.

I had my first WTF moment when Caitlyn Jenner won 'woman of the year'. But now I seem to peak trans every week or so... my latest peaks were Jane Fae's twitter post about DV gone wrong and women's 'eggshell skulls' being somehow to blame for that... and another TRA Lauren Pleska castigating feminists for not supporting a transwoman who died [murdered by a man]... apparently she turned to sex work due to non acceptance by feminists who should have offered her friendship and written her CV for her Hmm

AnachronisticCorpse · 28/03/2018 07:10

I used to be furious at the ‘nastiness’ and transphobia on here. Many a ding dong with Dittany back in the day, I couldn’t understand why you horrible lot couldn’t just leave these poor souls alone.

I’m not sure exactly when I peak transed but it was a few years ago now. Finding out most of them are in fact just men in dresses was a turning point, I think I’d been thinking of Hayley Cropper up until then, and yes, Caitlin Jenner winning WotY. I’m quite vocal on Twitter now and there is something every day that re peaks me.

It’s got to the point where I genuinely think LM and his ilk are trolling as no one could be that ridiculous. And then I realise it’s all ‘real’ and I die a bit more inside.

arunadasi · 20/02/2019 03:37

Haha. I didn't understand the expression either so I googled.
The first definition google gave is this:

"peak trans
The moment when a passively transphobic person has a bad experience with a trans person and goes full TERF."

But right after that, comes THIS thread. And I realise I've been peaking ever since the Jenner thing...

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 20/02/2019 07:25

The Girl Guiding rules which state that any child uncomfortable showering / sleeping next to someone with a penis must be re-educated did it for me.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 20/02/2019 07:28

Before that I would consider me here to set the world to rights.

Fairenuff · 20/02/2019 12:27

Scotland and Greater Manchester Police are doing it for a lot of people.

Oldermum156 · 20/02/2019 12:51

"another TRA Lauren Pleska castigating feminists for not supporting a transwoman who died [murdered by a man]... apparently she turned to sex work due to non acceptance by feminists who should have offered her friendship and written her CV for her"

That's even battier since the entire libfem/third wave movement now whole heatedly supports "sex work" as something an empowered woman does for herself as a "choice" and which isn't to ever be something non-"Swerfs" try to stop as it would be impinging on her sexual freedom

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 20/02/2019 12:56

I thought this was a new thread and thought that thebewilderness was back.

Pity, I really needed some good news today, too.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/02/2019 13:24

Me too... in honour of whom, a reminder that one of the steps up that hill is recognising how many of these rules are obeyed by TRAs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/6kkeni/theerulesoffmisogyny/

Vixxxy · 20/02/2019 13:49

The moment when a passively transphobic person has a bad experience with a trans person and goes full TERF.

The moment something clicks and people realise that 'trans acceptence' being asked for is actually just MRA shite that fucks over women.

Barracker · 20/02/2019 13:55

It's the moment when you accumulate sufficient knowledge and facts to realise that you've been blindly accepting a really harmful and nonsensical dogma and you need to stop.

Here's a little 'when did you PeakTrans?' twitter poll:
It looks like we're only just beginning to see a massive swing back to reality.

twitter.com/HairyLeggdHarpy/status/1098207482583965703?s=19

ErrolTheDragon · 20/02/2019 13:57

There are many paths up the hill.

I think for me, it's something of a boggy detour in the journey from fuzzy liberal equalism to a better understanding of structural sexism (rooted in biology) and the fact that the struggle for women's rights is far from over.

Lemoncakestrudel · 20/02/2019 14:42

How do you do DV wrong?

ErrolTheDragon · 20/02/2019 16:00

When you accidentally crush a woman's eggshell skull.

I think this is what it's referring to. John is, of course, now Jane.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/87g8f8/johnfaeetraonndomestic_violence/