Murderer

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www.thesun.co.uk/news/5898138/cross-dressing-killer-day-release-william-jaggs/

I know it's the Sun but seriously, how utterly disgusting that this is being allowed to happen? What must that poor girls family be going through? How can someone who is deemed cheap a risk to the public be going shopping?

So, hang on, why do we not have Lily and the gang piling on, telling the paper that they have misgendered this poor, brave, soul, who is just trying to get on with her life and really does not need to literal violence of being called he or reminded of a former life in which 'she' purchased a chainsaw to commit murder and stabbed a woman who had never done her the slightest bit of harm, 66 times and left her to die.

I bet if someone raises it with Lily (please, someone, do), the response will be that this is not a real trans woman. Yes, it is. He calls himself Gillian, he wears a dress. Lily calls himself Lily and wears a dress. No difference. Some idiot on Lily's timeline has put something like 'I am pro trans because despite trans women getting murdered at an alarming and disproportionate rate, TERFs keep saying that trans women are the threat'. I suppose by alarming and disproportionate, they mean one murder (where it is pretty obvious that it was not a random attack, given it happened in a hotel room).

The more violent and dangerous murderers come out as women, the better, in my view. Maybe then we can end the stupid narrative that once a man says he feels like a woman, he ceases to be any risk whatsoever. If Lily is a real woman, so is William 'Gillian' Jaggs. Stop being hypocrites.

Well said! I'm sure Lily and Co will be keen to not welcome this person into the trans fold, well I bloody hope not! Is this the sort of person they want in women's prisons, or female changing rooms?? And no (before anyone starts) I don't believe all trans are murdering, mentally ill people but this one is. It seems Women's lives matter less and less.

I would ask Lily but blocked obviously, perhaps someone else could?

Something I read on another thread suggested Lily now has a GRC - although I have also read that this can't be the case because Lily hasn't lived as a woman for long enough.

Might be worth checking (so far as possible) before drawing a comparison that's then immediately debunked.

Agree, I am not saying that all trans people are murderers at all. My point is in direct response to those who insist that trans women are NO RISK to women. Well, here is one who is prettt fucking high risk. And the point is we can’t tell whether someone is a risk or not. Same with normal men- most are fine, some are not, ergo not appropriate to have to share intimate spaces with them. Exactly the same for trans and here we have proof that he is a risk.

I note that one dumb article insists on referring to Jaggs as a ‘cross-dresser’. Why not trans-woman? Are they frightened to suggest that one of their sainted ‘real women’ might not be so saintly after all? Surely not. I thought the instant you felt the laydee-feelz, you automatically became a complete non-threat to cis menstruators or whatever we are called now.

But William Jaggs may have a GRC and if he wanted one he would get it easily as he has been living as a woman for a while. Also I am not convinced Lily has a GRC. Lily makes numerous claims which are then withdrawn eg having schizophrenia.

I think he calls himself a cross dresser but it is the tra's and Stonewall who would name him as trans. I assume they will support him as they support other rapists, murderers like Huntley.

With respect I don't see what the crossdressing has to do with this. He is a thug who clearly should not have been free to roam. Its nothing whatsoever to do with gender. Do you even trust the Sun to give an accurate account?

mummybear701

I think it matters for a couple of reasons. Firstly many of the tra's point blank refuse to call out crimes committed by transwomen, in fact they fight for their right to be housed in a female prison and given hair straighteners. This person isn't a thug, he's a violent murderer.

I don't think he has done an interview, so I doubt the cross-dressing comment comes from his own mouth. He has apparently changed his name to Gillian which suggests that he is no different to most TIMs. If this was about Caitlyn Jenner or Kelly Maloney, the papers would be falling over themselves to use female pronouns and refer to them as women. But when it's a violent prisoner, it's suddenly a 'cross-dresser'.

It was the same narrative in Canada where a man identifying as a woman committed horrific assaults on very vulnerable women in shelters. The newspapers reported it as 'a man pretending to be trans'. So if you do bad things, you are not real trans- that is reserved for 'good people'. The thing is I have no idea how they can claim to tell who is genuine and who is not. Surely that's impossible because being trans is based on someone's inner belief about themselves. So how can an outsider judge whether or not someone is 'really' trans or whether they are just a cross-dresser or an opportunistic liar?

Well that's exactly what we're saying isn't it? How can you tell if it's a "Transwoman" or a "Transfaker" ?
You can't.
If they say "oh well, they aren't a REAL Transwoman" they're giving us the narrative.

I guess they should hop along to the trans crimes UK website. Though they refuse to believe that trans people can ever commit crimes cos they fluffy puss cats who just want to be accepted.

yeah it's the same with Tiffany Scott www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/court-put-lockdown-dangerous-dirty-11081394

Jeez, that article is ludicrous. It keeps jumping between he and she. As we can all see, this is a man (and a complete oxygen thief), whether or not he chooses to be Tiffany today. At least he is not housed in a women's prison.

See poor misunderstood fluffy kitten. 😕 geez I wonder if he needs a haniball lector type suit.

But imagine if he was.....