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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Chestfeeding

37 replies

holycheeseplant · 26/03/2018 13:27

Shared by the Analytical Armadillo.

fullcreamweb.blog/2017/11/03/breastfeeding-is-not-a-neutral-act/

One paragraph I'm puzzled about - I don't choose to id as female - but otherwise good points.

Comment on fb page is interesting; why do TW want to bf so much if it's not part of being a woman according to TM? Why do they refer to breastfeeding and not chest feeding?

It's just all sex appropriation as far as I can tell.

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Goldmonday · 26/03/2018 21:39

It's called breast feeding as it comes from breast tissue. It's a scientific term.

Mind you female is also a scientific term, and we aren't allowed to use that anymore.

Is it just me who is starting to feel ashamed about my body? Because I just happened to be born as a woman, I just happen to have a womb which can carry a baby and breasts which can feed them. I'm starting to feel like these organs are something to be ashamed of.

BlackeyedSusan · 26/03/2018 21:50

Why is it ok to offend women with words like chest feeding/gestater? Do we not count?

You can draw your own conclusions.

0phelia · 26/03/2018 22:05

I never understand the "chestfeeding" phrase.
I mean, apparently it's so as not to offend transmen who wish to feed babies naturally, but seeing as we're expected to see penises as female, can't breasts also be male?

Besides also, man-males do actually have breasts, anyway... and can also lactate (in certain conditions) so breasts are breasts are breasts....

Also if a transman is so gender-dysphoric by having breasts he gets them removed by a double mastectomy, this person will never be breastfeeding ever. So I don't think the language is talking to them.

Goldmonday · 26/03/2018 22:05

Please don't tell me gestator means what I think it does????

Last time I checked only a woman can get pregnant.

Is this a joke? Am I the only one who can see antenatal care being withdrawn to some extent to appease these nut jobs?

TheGoldenBough · 26/03/2018 22:20

Last time I checked only a woman can get pregnant.

You haven't checked all that recently then...

wildduckhunt · 26/03/2018 23:08

What is a woman golden?

TheGoldenBough · 27/03/2018 06:26

Well I'm quite happy with the adult woman female definition...

TerfsUp · 27/03/2018 07:42

Breast does not equal chest. They are two different things and to use the words interchangeably is both disingenuous and ignorant.

My cousin's husband was diagnosed with chest cancer and had muscles, tissues and at least one rib removed because of it. He has a great cavity in his chest where the mass was removed and when he inhales you can see the side of his neck inflate.

A friend had a bilateral mastectomy for breast cancer. She later had her breasts reconstructed using abdominal fat.

TerfsUp · 27/03/2018 07:47

why do TW want to bf so much if it's not part of being a woman according to TM

Because it validates their identity as female.

LEMtheoriginal · 27/03/2018 07:51

Is it me or has the world gone batshit?

TheGoldenBough · 27/03/2018 09:29

why do TW want to bf so much if it's not part of being a woman according to TM

Because it validates their identity as female.

And precisely because it is one of the most womanly things women can do.

tiktok · 27/03/2018 10:54

The chest feeding (grrrrrrr) thing started, or was at least taken up, by transman Trevor MacDonald, a Canadian (I think), who became pregnant (cos of being female) and wanted to give the baby human milk, but did not want to reference this action by giving it a 'female' term. As a result, BF support people (a few of them) got all guilty and sad and felt not to acknowledge this would be to exclude transmen parents.

No one should exclude transmen parents. And if they want to call what they're doing 'chestfeeding' then they can do so. But it doesn't make it so! They are definitely, definitely breastfeeding.

When you see a baby in repose on his or her mother's (oops, I did it again!) body, he or she is generally described as lying on her chest. Or across her chest. A chest, in common parlance, is different.

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