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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC QT - had to complain before I could go to bed

34 replies

Alternativefacts · 23/03/2018 00:57

www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/

Had to be done ......hope they get lots of complaints!

Dear BBC
My complaint relates to the handling of the question on tonight’s Question Time programme regarding whether trans women should have access to all women shortlists. I am concerned at the lack of balance and one-sidedness of the views expressed. It was really disturbing that there was not one dissenting voice heard - either from the panel or the audience- on the underlying question around trans women and access to women only ‘ spaces’ - in this case all women shortlists.

Is the BBC aware that this- and the closely related and topical issue of gender self id are highly controversial at the moment and that many gender critical feminists have been calling for an open and reasonable debate on these issues including all women shortlist’s?
E.g see petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118 and fairplayforwomen.com - (‘We are a group of ordinary women who are concerned that in the rush to reform transgender laws that women’s voices will not be listened to.Women get called transphobic for simply asking questions. Women are afraid to speak out and fear for their jobs and reputation if they do. ‘ )

Were there no requests to speak from a single person with a different view on the question of trans rights and women only spaces ? - either on the panel or from the audience?

What were the conditions on the basis of which Paris Lees agreed to speak - were there any conditions related to a) panel membership? b) what issues and questions would be allowed?

Why did David Dimbleby not invite Peter Hitchins to respond to direct criticisms of his previous comments by Paris Lees ?

Why was there only one woman on a panel of 5 ? ( plus 3 men, one trans woman. )

Please understand that there are real concerns about people trying to raise issues of women’s rights being silenced and threatened, no platformed and censured - and this edition of Question time sadly seemed to continue this trend.

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SunsetBeetch · 24/03/2018 10:08

Welcome Daisy

totalnamechanger · 24/03/2018 10:21

It would have been good if one of these 'awful people' could have had the opportunity to explain their view.

There would have been an awful lot of viewers who would have missed the point of this 'question' completely. And thought what PL was saying was fair enough. I might have been one of them a year or so ago.

TerfyTheCuntingTerf · 24/03/2018 12:24

Thinking about this a little more I have so far seen 2 items where Paris Lees has been allowed to put her opinion across completely unchallenged - QT and the Victoria Derbyshire program - and I'm sure there's more. I laughed bitterly about the opposite being true a gender critical voice being able to make their point without being challenged because it was unthinkable, but you know what, fuck that. If PL is able to speak without challenge yet the reverse is never allowed then isn't that a clear case of bias?

Time we started demanding that our voices be heard WITHOUT being spoken over, having to deal with straw manning, derailing, misleading arguments and waffle, often in an aggressive manner. Even if it's just a five minute segment on a show that otherwise presents the alternative POV (like VD). How could we go about demanding that?

HomeTerf · 24/03/2018 12:35

Terfy PL has form for that

https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-activist-paris-lees-walks-out-bbc-newsnight-recording120814/#gs.3eU8aYoo*

My guess is that PL was enough of a draw for the yoof audience that they let PL dictate terms.

TerfyTheCuntingTerf · 24/03/2018 12:42

I know, it's ridiculous that they seem willing to cave, and on a program that's meant to be about debate... But PL is a symptom and really just an example...

Can you imagine hearing a GC voice being allowed to speak on the BBC without challenge at the moment? Yet those speaking for trans rights (and not even that: let's face it, they're speaking for anti-women's rights) often can. Clear bias.

Could we start a campaign do you think?

ThatEscalatedQuickly · 24/03/2018 12:54

I think Paris has been quite open about refusing to 'debate' with anyone who is gender critical. I would imagine it's part of the criteria for agreeing to be on the programme that there would be no one with critical views appearing on the panel at the same time.

Ekphrasis · 24/03/2018 12:55

Omg!

Just watched and my bp is rising!

The questioner says 'females' over and over again. Trans gender women are not and never will be females.

Shami almost got there with "this is not a matriarchy" but clearly missed the point beyond that.

Eff off.

RogerAllamsFangirl · 24/03/2018 12:55

See other thread - can anyone go on AA to ask the question on air??

Ekphrasis · 24/03/2018 12:56

What worries me is any woman (not sure where they stand on this, will interpret the strength of feeling coming from the panel and audience as "oh ok this is what I have to think." Because of female socialisation.

I would have a few years ago.

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