Students supporting trans ideology taking over working class projects

[AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth]

This is a really interesting thread.

It seems that proponents of trans ideology are often students with a fair hint of the petty bourgeois and a disdain for the working class.

twitter.com/LucyLoveslife1/status/973852316787933184

Thank you. This is a very important, not to mention heartening, thread.

Very interesting.

LM has also liked a tweet from someone called 'Laura' wittering on about how her nan was one of the only women marching for the miners in 84/85.

I was there and there were fucking thousands of women involved in that strike and the preceding ones in the 70s. It's pretty fucking galling to hear about how women have always taken a back seat and the working classes have been getting class struggle wrong from this bunch of arseholes tbh...

Wow, really good thread. Thanks for sharing.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets I was there too, so either I'm her nan or I imagined the large numbers of women (miner's wives and activists) marching with the miners.

Alongside many other women, I was also involved in various other strikes as 'flying pickets' in the early 80s.

What I will say is this. I was involved in far left politics and the men were some of the most sexist I've ever met. Example, they had, at one point, an 'anarchist bird watching club' which I couldn't join as it was for men only. They had a macho attitude towards everything.

Dicks.

This thread is over on the HoC meeting thread. But I'm glad it's got a thread of its own because it's that good - and right too.

This is what I said on the HoC thread:

Labour finally get an actual left wing leader, only to watch him transform the party into a playground for gentrifying ID pol fools. Especially, as the statement says, people from Goldsmith's, the locus of UK queer and pomo ideologues.

LM has also liked a tweet from someone called 'Laura' wittering on about how her nan was one of the only women marching for the miners in 84/85.

I was arrested for insulting a police officer during the miner's strike. On a port picket. I was rude to him because he called me a commie slag! (No charge brought, but still.)

I'm sure some of us have met before; long ago in the deep dark recesses of the 1980s...

That's an interesting parallel re the Miner's strike. Women were very involved in the 1980s strike - both in their communities and in making alliances with others. I was in London and I recall numerous miners and women from the pits visiting and speaking at political events and vice versa.
Those 'on the left' got involved, protested, marched and worked alongside mining communities and supported their struggle - but on the miner's terms. I don't recall any wholesale take over of miners or their communities.

Today transactivists don't get involved and march alongside women. They define themselves as a superior group, take over women's language and spaces, rename us, demand that we are silent about our biological oppression and women's issues, redefine lesbianism in their own image, want the laws changed to their advantage and to the disadvantage of women and children.

They class their behaviour as political activism but it is NOTHING like that. It is a self indulgent ideological cult that promotes their fantastical world view to the detriment of the rest of society. But until recently society has seen this as a benign political movement - and we have to change that narrative.

Such a powerful comment from the Deptford activists.

That thread is so true, the most marginalised in society, in fact most of society don't have the time or inclination for the navel gazing that is identity politics.

Yet (mostly) white, (mostly) middle-class (mostly) young people are imposing this on people and explaining to them that it is only because they are ignorant that they don't know about this.

It's incredibly patronising.

And it's the poor, marginalised, vulnerable women who most need single sex services and who will suffer most if they are taken away.

Someone was saying earlier - what if one of those Telford girls gets PTSD associated with the male body? Can she speak? Is she allowed a trigger? Or will she be told to die in a fire, terf scum?

I marched for the miners in 1984. Last time I looked, I was a woman. So LM can bugger off.

Slight aside, but perhaps topical (even though it was a long while ago).

I was at the Brighton miners gathering at the tory conference back in 1984. I was supporting the miners and as I walked along with them a few shouted out to me "get ya tits out for the lads"

imnolaidee - my auntie used to tell me that the only correct response to that was "only if you show me your needle dick first" - used it many times!

Yes! Thank you for sharing that thread.

LangCleg - wish I'd used that back then - perfect!

Too much self love (thinking you as a MC student is superior to a WC person, or a male member of the Transology religion) and no love for others, very toxic behaviour. The true vulnerable and those helping are trampled underfoot by the privileged telling lies and masquerading as the vulnerable.

I'm another one who shook many a tin for the strike fund. Anyone who says there weren't many women involved, clearly wasn't there.

one of the only women marching for the miners in 84/85.

You can't be 'one' of an 'only'. That doesn't make sense.

Labour councils should introduce pronoun badges in the North. Like Brighton and Hove.

That thread explains why, perfectly.

I think this is where the terms 'Westminster Bubble' or 'Liberal Elite' hold power and ressonance.

My understanding is that certain personality disorders are untreatable and harmful to others. Maybe it's time to screen for them as part of a psychiatric assessment 'fitness to hold public policy office' test? No sane person believes a man is a woman, no decent person believes a man is a woman.

I hadn't thought of this as also being a class issue, but of course it is.

Thanks for the link, Puurfect.

What a powerful tweet. Thank you for sharing it. We are right and we will win.

" Someone was saying earlier - what if one of those Telford girls gets PTSD associated with the male body? Can she speak? Is she allowed a trigger? Or will she be told to die in a fire, terf scum? "

No no, that would be horrendous even for a TA or an libfem ally. Instead she'll be told to stop being manipulative, that however horrible her experiences are transwomen are far more oppressed and vulnerable than she'll ever be therefore it's only right and proper that their needs are considered first.

Woman privilege?

No no, that would be horrendous even for a TA or an libfem ally. Instead she'll be told to stop being manipulative, that however horrible her experiences are transwomen are far more oppressed and vulnerable than she'll ever be therefore it's only right and proper that their needs are considered first.

Urgh.

I've been following the responses on Twitter and there is one person aggressively asking questions in a really patronising way. Their behaviour is an exact demonstration of what the thread is about - arrogant posh people imposing their gentrified theories of "oppression" onto the actually oppressed and thereby actively obstructing work that offers real and practical support to genuinely marginalised people.

These people really are incapable of reflecting on themselves AT ALL.