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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How do I peak trans my OH?

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MotherTERF · 10/03/2018 23:46

Firstly, thank you mumsnet for opening my eyes! I consider myself a strident feminist but I genuinely was not tuned in to the issues around GRA until reading about it on these threads.

I have learnt so much the last few months.

I have begun to discuss this with my OH and have been dismayed by his lack of interest. At first he thought it was funny and assumed I was being deliberately controversial. He now realises I'm serious, but thinks I'm getting over invested in a 'non issue' and is concerned this is taking my attention away from other more worthy feminist causes.

He stands by the belief that most trans are just trying to get on with their lives and is worried to see me holding such a negative view of humankind.

It's starting to be the cause of some fairly heated discussion.

Please help me to peak trans him fast!!!

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Patodp · 11/03/2018 16:20

Uh oh....

I suspect they have arrived....

WednesdayAddams2525 · 11/03/2018 16:29

God reading that back I actually sound really aggressive! That's not really what I meant. What I meant was that imo most people regardless of who they are are just trying to get on with normal life. It's usually a few bad apples giving people a bad rap.

I apologise if that came across as disrespectful, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I'm not here to make anyone feel bad for feeling s certain way, just saying that I do agree with your DH, most people are pretty decent. I just thought it was odd you didn't agree with that.

I do agree though that there are certain safeguarding issues that need to be worked into our society to keep people safe.

Safety is of paramount importance, for everyone.

SmurfOrTerf · 11/03/2018 16:39

Wednesday that is exactly the point. The problem is not trans people. Its trans rights activists, who demand access to Women's safe spaces. There are several transwomen on here who are very supportive of this stance.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/03/2018 16:48

In for a penny

Peak Trans confused me too, tumblr. I had no idea and it sounded quite mean, very anti trans. I had a good read round the threads where the term was used and then went to Google to confirm:

[Purple Sage Quote] The following questions are designed to make anyone reach peak trans.
If there is nothing distinguishing trans women from other women then why are we calling some women trans?
How do we know which women to call “trans” if there is no way to tell them apart?
Assuming that transgender means transitioning from one gender to the other, then what did trans women transition from? If they were born women and have always been women then why did they need to transition?
Do you think we need a word that describes the set of all adult humans who can produce ova and bear young? Why or why not? If so, what do you think this word should be?
Can you define the word ‘woman’ without using the word in the definition? (i.e. without using a circular definition.)
[End Quote]

So peak trans would be the moment when trans activists finally get so ridiculous that even previous supporters can no longer support them, e.g. having reached the point where you see the ridiculousness of denying biology and that TERF is a made up insult intended to embarrass/scare women into shutting up.

It has nothing to do with wanting to deny the right of any man to be as feminine as he wants to be - or woman to be masculine!

This might help

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/03/2018 16:49

sorry...

clareflourish.wordpress.com/2016/04/29/peak-trans/

MyFavouriteChameleon · 11/03/2018 16:56

I also agree - would he have sex with a transwoman ?
I don't think that's a logical test though of anything. No one has to have sex with anyone they don't fancy, and who you fancy, is not down to logic. To suggest that so.done shouldn't be allowed to be what they are, in terms of how they represent themselves to the world, because your DH wouldn't fancy them, makes no sense.
I would not have sex with a very overweight man - that doesn't mean he has no right to call himself a man.
I don't understand what your DHs personal preference has to do with other peoples rights at all really Hmm

PositivelyPERF · 11/03/2018 17:15

*Uh oh....

I suspect they have arrived*

You left the bloody door open, Patodp! 😁

thebewilderness · 11/03/2018 20:45

Peak trans is that point at which we can no longer suspend our disbelief regarding transgender advocacy.
It is a belief that no one believes. No one is born in the "wrong body" because there is no wrong body. Some people have body dysmorphia. A mental illness that causes them to starve themselves or want to amputate healthy body parts. There are millions of men with fetishes regarding women.

UpstartCrow · 11/03/2018 21:29

MotherTERF I expect hat like most well meaning people, your DH is confusing 'post op transsexuals' and 'trans women'.

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