Anyone a teacher? Interesting thread about uterus donation on TES

[Becauseimworthit79]

It’s scary that a lot of these posters are teachers,and do not see the threat of TRA against Women’s
Rights.

some do - I have read that thread. I thought the comment about our wombs now being deemed as fashion accessories for 'transplanting' brings home how serious the transactivitists are. I am sad if people start to opt out of organ donation as a result of this.

Madigan and co should hang their heads in shame. But they don't.

I tersted in knowing how much all their treatment is costing us when the NHS is under pressure. But May sad that being trans was not an illness so maybe they should self fund their own treatment

I certainly don’t think it should be NHS funded either! I don’t want to opt out of organ donation but I am not comfortable with my uterus being used as a “fashion accessory”.

Will there really be enough healthy dead women uteruses anyway?

Teacher here but I don't go on tes anymore. I could have a look.

I have been pretty at the knowledge and calibre of many teachers these days. (Primary is my knowledge base) A lot just like to get the job done, have a laugh and party when they can. Zero political interest and quite into mainstream ways of thinking. Mind you they're worked too hard to give two hoots to much else. I was pretty annoyed by a thread about the bbc no more girls and boys documentary.

I think I'm with you about the calibre of teachers, at least the ones who contribute on the TES. Some of the comments are like reading the Daily Mail!

Yes, so many swallow the status quo. Mind you, I probably did when a little younger but I was always trying to learn more and scratch beneath the surface.

For example, the over reliance on points and rewards, not recognising internal motivation etc. Unquestioningly using traffic lights (when some children don't respond well to them at all) and swallowing gender stereotypes.

My first school had quite a lot of older, very well read teachers who all listened to R4 etc. Some were mature students etc. In many schools these days the majority are under 35 inc slt (or even under 28). Critical thinking tends not to be a common trait.

It's been deleted, by the looks of it. Silencing or what?

Not a teacher but I’ll be opting out of organ donation for this very reason as will many of my friends.

Which is a shame Circle, but I do understand and empathise. I would like my womb to go to someone who actually needs it as a life saving procedure or to give them the ability to carry a child, but I guess I don't have a say as to how and who it goes to when I consent to organ donation.

I would hate for my uterus to be used in this way (though i suspect it's too old now anyway) but i would not opt out as the amount of good I could do for others through using my other organs is more important to me. Can't you specify what you will donate? I remember there being boxes to tick on the old style doner card.

I think you can specify which organs but not the cause. I will still donate my uterus because I wouldn't want to prevent a biological woman from having one, as a life saving procedure, over the unlikelihood of a transwoman requesting one.

What was the general sway of the thread that was deleted?

I'd donate but I'm not sure it's ethical to use them in this way.

Holy, the vast majority of posters suggested that she was being transphobic and bigoted for not wanting a transwoman to have her uterus. They also dismissed her concerns about how it was another way of TRAs taking something that women exclusively have as women, therefore erasing and oppressing them.

There were only a couple of posters who were backing up what she said, and one in particular was very vocal about how a womb transplant is not a right and that adoption would be the better option if a transwoman wanted to become a parent, but they already can by becoming a father.

I would not donate my uterus for precisely this reason.

Unfortunate if a woman were to miss out but I am not letting a man play make believe with my body.

I didnt see the thread, but I'm skeptical this is something we need to worry about right now. Despite what some trash science says, men are nowhere near being able to carry babies and the NHS is, I hope, a long way away from allowing internal cosmetic surgery.

I was pretty annoyed by a thread about the bbc no more girls and boys documentary.

Holy when was this aired?

I'm a teacher (comp) and would agree that younger teachers are less politically driven. That said, as you have also said, the pressures outside of actual teaching is huge so maybe they're too bogged down,

Off to check out TES too.

Thanks. I literally cannot see how a male body can support a uterus presumably for pregnancy given the complexity of endocrine feedback loops, but the theory is unethical imo, especially given the number of women who struggle with fertility. A very young teacher colleague is facing a complete hysterectomy due to severe endometriosis and is devastated.

This was the programme cis; it was extremely good. Even linking the over masculinity of boys to male violence later in life. Unfortunately only some clips at the mo.

The teacher involved is very active on Twitter and now a strong advocate for smashing gender stereotypes. He popped on here for a chat actually too!

Worth following the presenter too.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09202jz

Graham Andre is the teacher.

I would like my womb to go to someone who actually needs it as a life saving procedure

Is there a situation where anyone would need a womb transplant to save their life?

I don’t know Valentine, my point is that I hope it would be donated in a life or death situation, and that it would be prioritised to a biological women, who is more likely to need it than a transwoman.

A man has no need for a womb whatever pronoun he uses.

Exactly. ⬆️

I used to a regular on TES and have chipped in a bit on the gender threads but anyone terfy is massively outnumbered.

Does anyone have any info on cock and balls transplants for the transmen?

All the supporters of womb transplants must know about it. It would be quite transphobic not to know surely?

praps I'll wade back into tes when on maternity leave! Mass invasion? The educators need educating by the sounds of it (or a little thought provocation.)