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Anyone feeling stressed out by Labour/women's rights

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Boxesandbuttons · 03/03/2018 21:57

Life of Brian is a brilliant relaxer. Lots of scenes that basically predict in parody the current state of the modern hard left. Laughter is good.

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TERFclick · 03/03/2018 22:23

Bromentum are on their last legs. I am looking forward to getting the Labour part back. Where is the Life of Brian available, Netflix?

Boxesandbuttons · 03/03/2018 22:24

YouTube. Well worth it!

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TERFclick · 03/03/2018 22:37

Do you mind providing a link?

2rebecca · 03/03/2018 22:57

Are they on their last legs? I wasn't a fan of New Labour and left in the Blair years but hate Momentum and feel Corbyn is a puppet. I don't want Scottish Independence and the SGP are behind the gender identity nonsense. I feel a bit disenfranchised at the moment.

TERFclick · 03/03/2018 23:18

2Rebecca Yes they are eating themselves. They got rid of anyone other than hard left, now even that's not good enough. JL wants to be king.

UpstartCrow · 03/03/2018 23:20

That's the trouble with ideological purges, they never end. You'd think they'd know that, being so well informed about politics and all.

TERFclick · 03/03/2018 23:22

Fists at dawn!

Toddlers, from the TRAs to Bromentum.

DonkeySkin · 04/03/2018 03:38

Bromentum are on their last legs.

How are they on their last legs? Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks like they are having great success entrenching themselves in the Labour Party's power structures. Others seem to be keeping their heads down for fear of them.

TERFclick · 04/03/2018 09:15

They have everyone scared. They got rid of anyone to the right of them. They are now eating each other trying to gain the crown. Meanwhile the public are walking away from labour in their droves. Labour isn't ahead in the polls despite a symbolic Brexit.

TERFclick · 04/03/2018 09:16

shambolic

MrsOvarall · 04/03/2018 09:40

Yes. This should be an open goal for Labour. In normal circumstances they'd be miles ahead in the polls.

HairyBallTheorem · 04/03/2018 09:44

I'm not sure, sadly, that Labour are on their last legs. There's an interesting poll in today's Times (yes, I have finally taken out a sub - thanks Janice!)

Yougov: "Voters give the Conservatives a 10-percentage-point lead at the next election if the opposition backs Brexit and a five-point lead if Labour opposes it."

They could pull back a lot of votes if they came out as Remain. But we all strongly suspect that Corbyn backed Brexit, and he's not the kind of bloke who ever changes his mind on anything. Doctrinaire to the last.

MrsOverall is right though, given the disarray in the Tory party and the cock-up they're making of the Brexit negotiations, Labour should be shooting at an open goal. The fact that they're not is entirely down to Bromentum.

HairyBallTheorem · 04/03/2018 09:46

(I say "sadly" because of Bromentum - I've voted Labour for decades, with a blip for the Greens over the Iraq war. But the thought of a Bromentum government is terrifying - they show all the signs of being an extreme authoritarian movement who would actually clamp down on free speech).

TERFclick · 04/03/2018 09:48

The average person on the street now knows what Bromentum are all about. You will get generation loyalty and many holding their nose, many simply plan to not vote at all. Eventually those keeping their heads down will leave or push back against those not eaten amongst themselves by the hard left.

PerkingFaintly · 04/03/2018 10:00

My goodness this is making me feel old, seeing people discovering Monty Python for the first time.Grin

I remember Life of Brian being banned from cinemas because of lobbying by Christian groups.

It was deliberately parodying the splittist extreme left groups that always seem to have existed – among its very many other targets. Although the description works for Wee Frees and the extreme right, too!

HairyBallTheorem · 04/03/2018 10:18

Yes, me too Perking. Went to see it with my mum when it came out - I'd be about 15. I remember her laughing like a drain at the Latin grammar scene where Brian is trying to write "Romans go home" and can't get his verb in the right tense (one of the things I miss most about my mum is watching her descend into helpless snotty hysterical laughter at bits of films... always a really joyous experience, going to see any comic film with her).

But yes, LOB came out when Labour was in the grip of Militant Tendency (whose play-book I think Bromentum have lifted in its entirety).

to remind us how bad things got. Life of Brian was 1979, Kinnock's speech wasn't till 1985. That was 6 wasted years at the height of Thatcher doing untold damage to the welfare state and systematically destroying trade union's rights while the left ate itself and made itself unelectable. (And don't forget, the hard left had opened the way to a lot of that by embracing extremism while in power - I remember the winter of discontent and the power cuts too, some of my earliest childhood memories. In retrospect I see that by giving trade unions overwheening powers, the hard left paved the way for a right wing backlash which then swung the pendulum way too far in the other direction).
SmurfOrTerf · 04/03/2018 10:22

Another person old enough to remember seeing it at the pictures. I keep saying to DH Corbyn is not the Messiah, he is just a naughty boy

PerkingFaintly · 04/03/2018 10:31

Gosh, lucky you. My mother banned all Monty Python from the house because they were obviously blasphemous bad people.Hmm

So I got to see the famous debate with Muggeridge and the Bishop of Southwark - but not the film itself until years later.

SmurfOrTerf Grin

PerkingFaintly · 04/03/2018 10:54

And sorry, I leapt to an assumption that the posters for whom it was new were Very Young. Obviously you might just not be British.

Apparently there are corners of the world deprived of Monty Python, poor things.Grin

CorbynsComrade · 04/03/2018 12:10

Momentum are anything but on their last legs. There’s a very good chance Lansman is going to be the new General Secretary 💪🏻

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