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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans abled article

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Myunicornfliessideways · 01/03/2018 07:46

'Trans abled' person seeking surgery to be paralysed. A psychologist asks is it better to have someone commit suicide than to medically damage them. (And suggests maybe temporary damage as a kind of 'able blocker' to try it out. Now where have I heard that before? The narrative is already being framed to ride on the self ID coat tails. Trans age next.

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Fishfingersandwichnocheese · 01/03/2018 08:05

I’ve mentioned this a few times - this condition and wondered how it relates to trans.

Being as the treatment isn’t usually to amputate a limb or whatever but if you’re trans then body mutulation is fine because it’s just helping you be yourself ?

I’m starting to lean towards trans being a mental health thing even though I know this idea in itself is “transphobic”

iamawoman · 01/03/2018 08:11

There are people who have a type of body dysmorphia whereby they feel a body part such as a leg doesnt belong to them and have wanted amputation-although it may well also be another strange fetish

TinselAngel · 01/03/2018 08:13

That negligé is an odd voice of clothes to be photographed inHmm

exexpat · 01/03/2018 08:25

That article doesn't mention that Chloe is also a trans woman as well as being trans abled: gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/national-geographic-taboo-fake-paraplegic-chloe-jennings-white/

There does seem to be a pattern with men who believe they are women also believing they are other impossible things, e.g. the guy who claims to be a Filipino woman, and the 'dragon lady' featured in the daily mail the other day. I wonder if there could possibly be some connection?

LangCleg · 01/03/2018 08:30

Surely, if the choice you present to your doctor is "operate to paralyse me" or "I will kill myself" and the suicide threat is real and serious, you should be subject to a section under the Mental Health Act?

I don't even see what the debate is, TBF, other than to start to normalise in our minds that the mentally ill should get the procedures their mental illness makes them demand.

It might fly somewhere like the US, with privatised healthcare and more opportunity for unscrupulous doctors, but surely not here?

hackmum · 01/03/2018 08:37

Interesting, isn't it? It's hard to see the difference between a man believing he is "really" a woman, and an able-bodied person believing they are "really" disabled. Except while we are urged to repeat the mantra "transwomen are women" over and over again until it magically becomes true, no-one has (yet) used the slogan "transabled people are disabled people". I'm going to enjoy the response from disabled people when that starts happening.

AstraiaLiberty · 01/03/2018 12:02

I can see the point that if dysmorphia is causing serious and prolonged psychological distress in such a case, and all other alternatives have been tried, having the surgery might be the best option. I think that applies equally to transsexuals, 'trans-abled' people, and people who want to look like dragons or cats or whatever.

'I will kill myself if I don't get surgery' should never be taken as a reason to operate, though. Either it's manipulative, or they're a genuine suicide risk and need urgent intervention for that, not surgery.

I will say though that other unnecessary cosmetic procedures for mental health reasons do happen on the NHS. An older relative of mine had a facial feature which is perfectly ordinary and unremarkable but not considered attractive by most people. She had NHS surgery after claiming it made her depressed. Family resemblance means I have the same feature - she actually told me that I should pretend that it affected my self-esteem so I could get it 'fixed' for free. (That comment affected my self-esteem more than the feature ever had, but I put up a nice feminist argument about my self-worth not being based on my looks, despite being only 17 at the time). Anyway, I was shocked that such a stretched and underfunded healthcare system catered to that sort of thing.

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