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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Terminology problems

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midgebabe · 27/02/2018 13:28

It's very difficult to talk about things without knowing what terms mean and what are acceptable to people to whom the terms refer.

So have I got this and what are the missing terms?

A trans woman who identifies as a trans woman remains a trans woman and can carry on as normal apart from the fact they are now subject to more hate because they are currently classified the same as

A man who self identifies as a woman who is now a woman. It is offensive to call them anything else or treat them as anything else.

The term transphobic Is now used as someone who hates woman as per the above definition of woman..so what do you call people who hate Trans women ? Or is that still transphobic and we need another terms for hating the women as defined above or is that misogynistic.?

Or does misogynist Means hating the same group of people as historically..i.e. People of the female sex . Who can now no longer be called women because that no longer means of the female sex

Who are now split into two groups

Those of female sex who gender identify as woman are now cis woman..is the plural cissies? How is that not offensive?

Those of female sex who do not gender identify , are called what?

And do we need separate terms for people who hate each of those types of female?

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Datun · 27/02/2018 14:55

Yup. That just about sums it up.

Now try with non-binary, demi sexual and ... feminist.

But you have to provide subcategories for feminist, lib fem and rad fem.

Not to be confused with trans femme and en femme obvs.

midgebabe · 27/02/2018 17:45

May need something stronger than tea.

So we are missing words which could make debate more prone to misunderstanding and less likely therefore o reach consensus?

Feminist is a belief /ethics system that can apply to any person so surely it's orthogonal?

Non-binary? we have none- binary biology if we include intersex which would be impolite not to, or is that just a way of expressing that we have more than 2 gender catagories? In which case are my definitions assuming non- binary?

All the other terms I will need to look up. Help.

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