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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How Men React to LadyBrain

19 replies

MightyMike · 27/02/2018 09:28

This is a YouTube video showing a typical man, who is a bit of a dick. His reaction to lady penis, how many death threats would a lesbian get for posting this I wonder?

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MightyMike · 27/02/2018 18:35

I duplicated this thread by mistake then got the wrong thread deleted - the one with the posts - apologies to those who posted earlier today 😳

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theaveragewife · 27/02/2018 18:45

Didn’t see the thread earlier, but I think the way they are talking and laughing is really shitty, and I consider myself gender critical.

BlackForestCake · 27/02/2018 19:03

You can see where this is coming from when you see they also have a video about "why male privilege is a myth". It’s not a feminist critique being presented here.

Poor David. He looks quite nice with his blonde hair and lipstick but no straight man is ever going to take him seriously as a potential partner.

MightyMike · 27/02/2018 19:30

Agreed that the YouTuber is being a Dick.
My point was the difference between him posting harshly against the idea of men being pressured to accept Lady Penis and the Radical Feminists posting in a more intelligent and less "dickish" way. The difference being this guy gets to post what he likes with no social death, career death or death/rape/mutilation threats. He is safe to say what he likes as opposed to a more reasoned woman who, most likely, all get all of the aforementioned.
Any lesbian even hinting at what this guy posted would be roasted all over social media for being a but.

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MightyMike · 27/02/2018 19:33

Not but meant bigot 😊

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loveyouradvice · 27/02/2018 20:18

He is a dick.... BUT he gets huge numbers of views - 4m in some cases for these issues.... and it means this is being debated by more people which has to be a good thing on any level, especially as he is often pointing out the obvious like MtF have unfair advantage in sports.... no longer invisible....

picklemepopcorn · 27/02/2018 20:19

Ooh, must watch.

MightyMike · 27/02/2018 20:38

No doubt about the "dickness" of the youtuber.
However, it does show that this guy is very comfortable in saying exactly what he thinks and even revels in being a dickhead. A luxury that women can only dream of. Men have total free speech on anything and women don't.
FYI I believe in free speech for everyone on anything as I believe that reasonable views will prevail given the Oxygen of free and open debate.

This youtuber is debating on Transgenderism (albeit in a light hearted pisstake way) but most women here can tell tales of how they are being silenced on the same debate on the same concerns, ie not wanting to be labelled a bigot for their dating choices. Interesting comparison between the two genders and how they debate and how their views are taken by the media, social media and overall.

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picklemepopcorn · 27/02/2018 22:42

He is a horrible horrible man! I'm shocked he felt free to be so crudely unpleasant.

Is he really not facing the kind of backlash women face for saying far milder things?

nooka · 28/02/2018 00:04

This guy has 1.3M subscribers, with this video seen by 620,000 and liked by 3K. There were about 700 downvotes and seven thousand comments which scrolling through did not seem to contain any of the 'die in a fire' type of responses. The guy is a dick but what he is saying is likely what most men think. Maybe many women too but they know they will get into shit for saying so because it's not nice is it?

LassWiADelicateAir · 28/02/2018 00:20

Poor David. He looks quite nice with his blonde hair and lipstick but no straight man is ever going to take him seriously as a potential partner

I know. I wouldn't want to go on a date with David but I'd happily have lunch with him. The 3 Neanderthals in the video however I wouldn't give the time of day to.

LassWiADelicateAir · 28/02/2018 00:30

The guy is a dick but what he is saying is likely what most men think

I would guess that if my husband were set up with a blind date with David he would squirm with embarrassment but over- compensate by being ultra polite. If it were my son he would take it in his stride and be his usual charming self. Both of them would feel sorry for David but there would be no second date.

I didn't read through the comments. I agree no woman could make that video. Blaire White can be very critical of the trans community and she gets criticised for it.

splendide · 28/02/2018 04:37

Am I meant to agree with or like this twat. He’s got a video about ugly feminists by the way.

mamaryllis · 28/02/2018 05:10

You are free to have whatever opinion you want, splendide. The op is making a point that the guy is being a dick, but nevertheless has far greater freedom and far less repercussion to less controversial women.

Whether you agree or not, the fact remains that he hasn't been censored or attacked. The only thing the op is asking you is if you recognize that he has greater freedom to broadcast his opinion by virtue of being a man.

The ugly feminist one wouldn't make the same point. A woman would be free to moan about ugly feminists, because women tearing each other apart does a man's job for him.

athingthateveryoneneeds · 28/02/2018 06:06

I commented on the other thread. I was very uncomfortable with this video, and would never talk in such crude terms about anyone. But - no TERFa comments, no death threats, nothing. It was very interesting.

As an aside, I'm wondering if David is just a repressed gay man? Don't a lot of TIMs claim to be "lesbian"? I was surprised to see him on a date with a male.

nooka · 28/02/2018 06:42

I gathered from the intro that there was some pan thing going on, so I'm not sure it really was a straight date. I guess you'd have to find the original video to get the context. I got the impression that it might have been accompanied by 'how brave, how beautiful' type comments and it's as much that that the guys are reacting to.

And yes I agree with Lass I suspect I'd probably rather spend time with David than the YouTubers and I'm not at all surprised that they have material about ugly lesbians. I bet most of their subscribers are dicks too. But it's interesting to see the sorts of conversations people that don't have to be nice all the time have, and seeing how little they get called out on it is quite interesting too.

MightyMike · 28/02/2018 07:39

There is a world of difference between reasoned debate being had by Radical Feminists and women in general when discussing TG issues and this "Dudes" unreasoned debate.

The unreasoned debate gets no real back-lash and if it did the guy in the video wouldn't care as no one is going to sack him or not employ him. His friends aren't going to stop calling. This is freeing and taken for granted - this should be us as well.
Being "nice" is a sort of prison for women - we are encouraged and enforced to be "nice" - eg all the women discussing their unease about self-id over twitter and facebook, etc and historically the great suffragettes.

Also, I think that Dave may be a bit gay and a bit AGP - based on the video Dave likes to talk about himself and to be seen as feminine, far more than he is in finding out about who his date is. AGP is that you are more excited/interested in yourself being treated as a woman than you are the actual person you are with - the important part is that the other person validates that you are female and that is what excites and interests an AGP the most. The other person could be male or female.

Maybe we shouldn't take at face value the fact that TGs are afraid to go into mens' spaces because of violence, perhaps they are more afraid that they will be laughed at and there is a high chance another man would call him out on his precious self-id delusion. Women will be "nice" or will ignore TGs in their space.

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theaveragewife · 28/02/2018 08:10

I agree we do have to be nicer, but I would rather try to be accepting and nice that straight off be an utter cunt like that bloke.

I know it’s a social expectation placed upon women, and I wish it were a universal expectation. Saying that, it is ok to get angry when it is warranted, and use more forceful language - although women are deemed crazy or unstable when we do. The opposite is when men are ‘authoritative’ and ‘in control’, but I don’t think this video displays that....it’s just people being vile.

And yes they face no backlash, maybe because they are intimidating and have 10,000s of followers who are also closed minded. It still doesn’t make me envy their position, I wouldn’t want to scare people into submission.

athingthateveryoneneeds · 28/02/2018 08:25

Maybe we shouldn't take at face value the fact that TGs are afraid to go into mens' spaces because of violence, perhaps they are more afraid that they will be laughed at and there is a high chance another man would call him out on his precious self-id delusion. Women will be "nice" or will ignore TGs in their space

This is a very interesting point.

As far as this guy's channel is concerned, I won't be visiting again. It's brought up some thoughts about my own socialisation however, which I will be examining.

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