Worried it’s a distraction...

[sexnotgender]

Not bashing Lily.

Just beginning to wonder if they are a massive distraction from something bigger?

They are SO outrageous, not a chance anyone else would be allowed to act in that manner.

They’re taking our attention, are they a deliberate smokescreen?

Most people think it's harmless inclusivity.

There was a plopper on the thread yesterday I started about a letter from my MP, she came along to tell us we are mean and we didn't understand. It was naivety and sentimentality.

The cold hard fact that men are not women and we are not fucking pretending they are for anyone is going to take some getting across. But let's just keep going down that road. It's not complicated, there is no grand strategy out there facing us, it's just dipshite flummery.

There will be few jobs, they want us back in the kitchen so the men can have them.

If LM comes good then the people who backed them are forward-thinking heroes of the progressive left who are on the right side of history

If LM gets removed from post for being an incompetent political liability, the people who backed them are gullible numpties who have gambled political capital on an ill-judged social experiment at a critical juncture in uk affairs

When in a hole, keep digging.

Have to admit that a few months ago when i learned of LM I wondered what was waiting in the wings, was there going to be an imploding LM and a good chance to bury bad news day.
I still look around for the bigger picture, but maybe it's just as it seems.

Yes OrderOnline, that's were my more wilding thinking leads.

Unfortunately I don’t think there is a grand plan. I think they are so blinded by trying to be cool and down with the kids plus a lot of male politicians who run things have very little understanding of all these mere wimmins issues. I suspect that probably some are getting a bit embarrassed and uncomfortable now they are realising that lm is a bit of a twat. My guess is that lm will then be used as a scapegoat.

It's almost always cock up not conspiracy

I agree with bellasuewow.

No conspiracy. Just getting down with the youth. And the ongoing effects of the T being appended to the LGB.

And as soon as Madigan is considered a liability he will be under the bus too.

Angela Rayner is going to be incubating that green bench for a very long time.