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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Oxfam crisis

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Lettucepray · 16/02/2018 18:07

Is it a reasonable stance that in order to protect vulnerable people we stop sending men into these situations??

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Becauseimworthit79 · 16/02/2018 18:39

Think you’ll find responses of the “women do it too” kind.

I don’t know what the solution is.

Lettucepray · 16/02/2018 18:46

Yes probably 🙄 except we know that 98% sexual assault perpetrated by men. I don't know the solution either but am just so bloody angry at the situation!

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TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 16/02/2018 18:48

There's a strong argument for not allowing men into any positions of power at all on that basis ...

OldBlueStitches · 16/02/2018 19:01

I reckon if there were equal numbers of men and women, crucially, with equal powers then this would happen less.

I cannot see how it would happen the same or more if only women went into these situations. Just look at the numbers of men and women convicted (and accused) of sex crimes in this country - dramatic difference.

I've lived somewhere where westerners came in, paid well, especially relative to locals (not crisis situation) and it's not always pretty. There are definitely some who behave like they're invincible and who treat locals as lesser people. It's awful to see.

It's rare to see women heading these sorts if missions because you usually have to have been to some hairy places and there comes a point where children are involved, especially once school-age, that it's not feasible. So women take on different roles..or leave. Men go overseas without wives often in this scenario, or aren't married with kids.

GoodyMog · 16/02/2018 19:05

Sounds good to me Tallulah

shedalight · 16/02/2018 19:17

Back in the 1970s & 80s (and earlier) many schools has significant issues with paedophiles. Child protection became a priority and a lot of these (mainly) men then moved into unregulated sports clubs, music tuition, private tutoring and other unregulated areas. Bit by bit parents were advised of the dangers and sports clubs, scouts and guides, music tuition, private tutoring etc became more regulated.
I presume they have found that the voluntary sector now offers a 'home' to them.
Frankly any organisation that is so deluded as to have a position where they can't / won't say to their employees that they must not use prostitutes 'because of infringing their human rights' deserves to go under. I have zero tolerance for those who fail to safeguard children and vulnerable people. NONE of this stuff is new - it's just that Oxfam chose to prioritise the rights of male employees over... everyone else.

Lettucepray · 16/02/2018 19:38

shedalight

Thoroughly despicable.....it is not a human right to sleep with prostitutes! I suspect they will be addressing that though, lack of income will see to that.

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Notabadger · 16/02/2018 19:53

I had been thinking about this. In the news reports the victims are described as women/girls but the perpetrators as 'oxfam staff'.

WeAreGerbil · 16/02/2018 19:57

They were just joking about it on The News Quiz, which I thought was a bit distasteful. But don't employ men was my thought too. I've not heard that on the news though it seems obvious to me.

Lettucepray · 16/02/2018 20:06

Because we are not allowed to say such a thing as not sending men because society is in a delusional state about men's violence. It's the 'not all men' bullshit.

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Becauseimworthit79 · 16/02/2018 20:11

Even if we banned men from these situations, they’ll find a way in. Self identification, for example , would be very convenient here.

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