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Transgender women breastfeeding.

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IHATEPeppaPig · 15/02/2018 14:06

www.romper.com/p/a-transgender-woman-has-exclusively-breastfed-her-baby-its-a-dream-come-true-8146751

Paris Lees has shared this on Twitter and is lamenting on how it is a medical marvel. What about the poor baby?! It seems entirely narcissistic and all about the wants if the partner rather than the baby- the mother was there and able to breastfeed but the partner wanted to do so to I assume validate themselves.

In addition, the huge amounts of banned drugs which we have no idea what the effect on the infant will be - but hey guys, you know, transgender women can do whatever 'cis women' do.

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Reddwolff · 16/02/2018 13:56

It's not unheard of for males to have disorders that cause gynaecomastia and there have been reports of lactation in rare circumstances, but here it was induced. Hardly miraculous IMO.

The thing to be concerned about is the medications there, they would be passed on in breastmilk. There is a complex process of various hormones that work to stimulate the breast ducts to grow and start producing first colostrum and then later milk, various reflexes (let down and ejection) that occur and even the composition of the milk itself varies over a feed and depending on the age of baby.

Then the last bit is that they only managed for six weeks, and I bet near the end of it the baby wouldn't have got enough. Clearly it wasn't enough to meet demands and growth spurts which normal lactation would handle. Looking it up, a newborn only needs 30-60mls per feed, this goes up to double that and peak at 900mls daily. So to my mind it was really a failure, they couldn't sustain it.

It's very concerning also they claim they have to DIY and 'reclaim their medical agency'. The fact is it's forcing the body to do something it wouldn't do naturally and these medications are not benign, it's no surprise it hasn't been researched because it's all an experiment in the first place. One that can cause a whole heap of problems with people having erroneous ideas like double the dose, double the effects. It's more like double the dose, double the side-effects for zero benefit and more potential harm. Blind leading the blind is not a good idea.

BigDeskBob · 16/02/2018 13:59

If tanswomen are women, how is this a medical marvel, and why is it in the news?

Madmarchpear · 16/02/2018 14:03

They really are mad. He will be full of synthetic hormones but the desire to point score and have a viral photo of him looking all worthy go viral is outweighing the baby's wellbeing.

CircleofWillis · 16/02/2018 14:12

Domperidone can be lethal when taken intravenously in adults and is being passed to the baby in the milk. Apparently the breastfeeding trans woman and her partner are ‘willing to take this risk’. How on earth is this medically responsible?

Pumpkintopf · 16/02/2018 14:17

I'm surprised that any parent would risk potentially poisoning their baby -and if they are willing to risk it surprised said baby wouldn't be removed for its own safety.

Bindibot · 16/02/2018 14:20

yet again a child is put at risk to validate a man

IHATEPeppaPig · 16/02/2018 23:28

I have vowed never to judge anyone's parenting as I know it is so hard but this is truly abhorrent - they don't know the risk to the child yet they are subjecting it to potentially lethal drugs for their own validation. In my opinion this is akin to child abuse.

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BrownJenkins · 16/02/2018 23:34

I'm sorry but I see it as abuse. That poor baby.

salmonofwisdom · 16/02/2018 23:42

OP if you have vowed never to judge other people's parenting then why don't you just give that a try?

It has nothing to do with you, or anyone else for that matter.

Totorosfluffytummy · 16/02/2018 23:48

Using a baby for a "trial"?????

AssassinatedBeauty · 16/02/2018 23:50

No one should be concerned with a baby being used as part of an experiment? Right.

Also the generally dreadful reporting of this case, with absolutely zero science actually being reported. It's essentially an anecdote being presented as fact. It's madness. But no one can criticise because it involves a transgender woman.

Kimlek · 16/02/2018 23:50

salmonofwisdom yes, lets all turn a blind eye and allow adults to harm babies and children. Great idea!

Totorosfluffytummy · 16/02/2018 23:54

FFS
formula/artificial feeding debate is bad enough without having to step aside for this...

miri1985 · 17/02/2018 00:16

Vice did a follow up with the dr who did the "study" tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/zmwzn5/transgender-woman-breastfeeding

“Part of the risk was of the unknown,” Reisman says. “What doesn’t exist in the literature is, for example, a nutritional breakdown of breast milk in transgender women.” Would it be the same as in cisgender breast milk? Would a transgender woman produce enough milk, with the right nutritional elements, to support a growing child?

AIBU to think that maybe thats what their study should have focused on instead rather than facilitating something you have no idea about?

The paper that they cite that says the testosterone blocker is in low concentrations is from 1977, surely there must be some more recent data. I refuse to believe that even a small concentration of testosterone blocker and synthetic estrogen wouldn't have an effect on this baby boy.

The fear that was put into parents about stuff like BPA (or cows milk hormones) and their estrogen imitating properties in childrens bodies and theres no red flag about this?

IHATEPeppaPig · 17/02/2018 07:50

@salmonofwisdom do you really think that this experiment on a newborn is ethical?

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IHATEPeppaPig · 17/02/2018 07:51

@miri1985 exactly...

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