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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What everyday concrete socially-created divisions on sex/gender exist?

58 replies

catscan · 07/02/2018 11:57

  • public toilets
  • changing room facilities at gyms and schools
  • some competitive sports
  • routine cancer tests for cervical and prostate cancer
  • HPV injections
  • retirement age
  • number of times you can donate blood per year

What else is there?

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catscan · 07/02/2018 11:58
  • prisons

(Probably the most obvious one!)

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squishysquirmy · 07/02/2018 12:02

Getting your name on your child's marriage certificate (hopefully changing very soon)

catscan · 07/02/2018 12:04
  • different shaped bicycles
  • different buttoning on shirts etc
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Collidascope · 07/02/2018 12:05

Hairdresser Vs barber
Clothes shops/departments

SquareDot · 07/02/2018 12:05

Mothers going to the pub for a drink with 'the girls' after work. This is not a problem for father's as it's not seen as neglectful, whereas when mothers do it is. It's an unspoken rule.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 07/02/2018 12:07

dormitories eg boarding school or youth hostel

Collidascope · 07/02/2018 12:09

Shampoos, creams, hair dyes, etc. "for men"

Cismyfatarse1 · 07/02/2018 12:09

Uniforms (not just school but army / police etc)

FeedtheTree · 07/02/2018 12:09

Fashion departments within a store.
Practicality of clothing: men's suits have deep pockets, secure inside pockets for wallets etc. Their business shoes are flat and comfortable. Women's business suits are skimpy, restrictive, have nowhere to keep valuables and the shoes at best are thin soled slip on flats, but more usually pinching high heels.
Some single sex schools

catscan · 07/02/2018 12:11
  • some hospital wards
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SomeDyke · 07/02/2018 12:12

"What everyday concrete socially-created divisions on sex/gender exist?"

Pay at the BBC.................

catscan · 07/02/2018 12:13

I’m looking for indisputably concrete examples rather than value judgements.

Things where you’d be asked to stop/leave if you weren’t the “right” gender or sex rather than things that’d get you a few funny looks.

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HelenDenver · 07/02/2018 12:14

Retirement age is disappearing.

Recommended alcohol limits
Sanitary product disposal facilities
Rainbows, Brownies and Guides

Collidascope · 07/02/2018 12:14

Titles and inheritance -elder sons.

UpstartCrow · 07/02/2018 12:15

Psychiatric wards.
Women only areas in some places of worship.

CallMeAstroTerf · 07/02/2018 12:16

Teaching/supervisory staff on school residential trips.

CallMeAstroTerf · 07/02/2018 12:17

Unmarried parents and birth certificates - dad only included if present at registration.

catscan · 07/02/2018 12:18
  • some jobs which are exempt from the sex discrimination act, such as teaching in same sex schools, jobs in welfare services eg women’s refuges, and in film or theatre where the role can only be played by a man or woman
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CallMeAstroTerf · 07/02/2018 12:19

Religious institutions such as monasteries and nunneries

RatRolyPoly · 07/02/2018 12:20

Breastfeeding, pregnancy and "new mother" concessions and risk assessments in the workplace?

catscan · 07/02/2018 12:21
  • BMI guidelines
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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/02/2018 12:23

Freemasons.
A tiny handful of gentlemen's clubs in the West End of London.
Mammogram clinic (I've never seen a male member of staff in one)
Refuge for women escaping domestic violence (for now).

Until very recently, I'd have said:
Changing rooms in the lingerie department of big stores
Changing rooms marked as women's
Rape advisory service, women only session
Women's ward in a psychiatric unit
Swim sessions marked as women only

And so forth...

But increasingly it seems that a few transgender activists are testing the boundaries on all of the above.

Mookatron · 07/02/2018 12:24

Titles - i.e Mr/Ms type titles
Clothing
perfume vs aftershave
makeup
The 'consent' discussion in that it's called consent not desire

Patodp · 07/02/2018 12:25

Sports .
Men's sports / women's sports.

averylongtimeago · 07/02/2018 12:27

Helen Rainbows, Brownies and Guides were single sex organisations, they are now single gender, so are open to all who identify as female
www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policies/girlguiding-policies/equality-and-diversity-policy/transgender-gender-reassignment/

There has been no discussion about this, the wording was quietly changed from "single sex" to "single gender" about 18 months ago. And yes, Girlguiding was exempt from the equality act so it was perfectly within the law to be a single sex organisation.