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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Oh dear.... a Labour party canvasser has just knocked on my door......

43 replies

rowdywoman1 · 06/02/2018 18:54

I told him...... politely but very assertively.
He didn't have a clue - other than to tell me that some people believe that they were born in the wrong body. I told him that I believed the earth was flat and please would he arrange to have all the laws changed to shorten roads so that we don't fall off at the horizon.

He backed away .......

I have become 'one of those people' .... sigh.....

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rowdywoman1 · 06/02/2018 20:01

Sorry misscockerspaniel
Discussing grim sexual fetishes on my doorstep is a step too far!

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misscockerspaniel · 06/02/2018 20:14

Grin OK. Ask him how a woman, when faced with a male in a female-only space, is expected to know whether that person has a genuine gender dysphoria or is using that woman as an unwilling/unknowing participant in his "hobby".

Justabunchofcunts · 06/02/2018 20:23

I am planning to explain that until Labour's crazy Self-ID stuff I had no idea about trans issues and ask what gate keeping they are planning to ensure women and girls stay safe. I am also going to tell them I used to think Angela Rayner was great until I saw her being part of the Labour against transphobia group which seems to define transphobia as questioning anything about trans ideology at all. And I am going to tell them that I think the environment that has created, where people are scared to ask sensible questions even about children's safeguarding practices, iis a very very dangerous one to create policy especially in such a sensitive area. And what are the individual councillors doing to address this.

Seeingadistance · 06/02/2018 21:52

I'm going to see my MSP on Friday, at his scheduled surgery, which I notice only last 30 minutes! I am contemplating my opening gambit - which might be to ask why the Scottish Government is being influenced by sissy porn in setting public policy.

CecilyNeville · 06/02/2018 22:14

There's to be a Labour party stall in town at the weekend. I intend to go along, express my interest in signing up, and then ask whether there's any point as they'll only have to suspend me for 'transphobia' almost immediately.

VaguelyAware · 06/02/2018 22:24

Ooh I'm loving some of these responses. I'm not good at the quick response, I need to have some prepared. Rather like Mr Collins.

acornsandnuts · 06/02/2018 22:31

I’m prepared to answer the door with ‘thank god for Labour allowing self identification I identify as a man. Can’t you see!! I have trousers on as do all my neighbours who have internal lady cocks’

CircleofWillis · 11/02/2018 11:48

I had a Labour canvasser knock on the door on Friday. I honestly tried to do justice to my stance around GRA and labour’s no platforming for trans policy debaters. However I feel I came across as a mad gabbling woman with wild hair in a dressing gown. The canvasser slowly backed away saying, “Shall I put you down as ‘undecided’?”.

busyboysmum · 11/02/2018 11:56

Have you got his leaflet? Same happened to me and I got his email address and have been emailing him about it. More we bombard them then maybe they will listen.

rowdywoman1 · 11/02/2018 11:56

I have decided to use:
"I am concerned to hear that your party supports self identification - ie anyone is a woman who says that they are. This actively harms women in lots of ways. So can you clarify, does your party believe the penis is a female organ?

And then take it from there. Of course, they might run away rather than just backing away Grin

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busyboysmum · 11/02/2018 11:59

That's perfect. Maybe quote the latest poll at him that shows women leaving the party in droves because of this issue.

SoFancy · 11/02/2018 12:04

Love 'no debate, no vote' Grin

Unfortunately one of the Labour canvassers in my area is...my mother! And I've already had the talk with her on numerous occasions, she agrees and thinks its a misogynist shit-show...but disagrees with me leaving the party over it (which I did last week) and thinks I should stay and get loud about it.

Unfortunately, my local party is full of mansplaining Momentum loons, so I shan't be doing that. However, when I get the 'we are sorry to see you have canceled your membership...why have you gone and done that, then?' email...which my Mum says I will...I shall be telling them in no uncertain terms.

rowdywoman1 · 11/02/2018 12:15

busyboysmum
I'm anticipating using this with any political party. Yesterday I had the libdems and sent the lovely gay man away to google the 'cotton ceiling'.
Honestly, the conversations I am having at the moment defy all belief - and I've taught sex education to teenagers for years!

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CircleofWillis · 11/02/2018 12:54

@busyboysmum yes I have the leaflet. There are four people on it so I can get very busy with the emails.

dorade · 11/02/2018 13:01

Oh this is fabulous.
If enough canvassers keep getting the message it's another straw on the camel's back.

CircleofWillis · 11/02/2018 13:13

I have a question about the 'cotton ceiling'. Whenever I have looked it up it refers to the reluctance of lesbians to have sex with a lesbian transwoman while supporting the cause wholeheartedly in other ways. Why doesn't this term also refer to the reluctance of men to have sex with heterosexual transwomen? Why are only lesbian labelled transphobic for having a physical sexual preference?

TerfyMcTerface · 11/02/2018 13:18

No canvasser ever knocks on my door (rural, and so tory that sometimes there's only one other party bothering to run). But I'm be emailing every single candidate who puts a leaflet through the door to ascertain whether they believe in science or ladydick.

rowdywoman1 · 11/02/2018 13:56

CircleofWillis
Because it's all about bullying women. You are correct, men are very reluctant to sleep with transgender women - they just don't get called out about it (apart from on CBB - the moment when India Willoughby tried to kiss Genuwine after he said he wouldn't sleep with a trans woman).
This is why women have such strong reactions to the trans ideology - it isn't about equality or 'live and let live' as it used to be. It's about born men bullying women into ignoring our boundaries, our sexual preferences, our safety and the safety of our children.

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