Talking to teenagers about trans issues

[JellySlice]

My 15yo dd has totally drunk the koolaid. How can I open her eyes?

The one thing I have said that has at all made her think was about sport.

But earlier today I heard her tell her younger brothers "not all boys are boys, sometimes boys can be girls".

How did your parents open your eyes to issues of the day?
Or did you ignore them and work it out for yourself?
If you trust your DD to be reasonably sentient, intelligent and reasonable I'd leave her be.
Same for your boys.

I don't think you can 'fix' teenagers. They are experimenting and finding their place in the world. Just set boundaries.

Tell her to stop trying to parent her younger brothers. She is still a child, however she feels.
Explain to them that biology is what it is, its very sad that people aren't comfortable with themselves, we don't want to harm them, but that doesn't mean they have the right to make other people uncomfortable.

That's so hard.
It's inevitable that they rebel against us and our values. Mine took certainly did -but as they get older they come out on the other side.

I suppose with these issues, the one thing I would do is to make sure that no one is 'messing with her head' in terms of her own identity. Otherwise it's a question of keeping the communication open and mutually respectful - let her talk and mainly listen. My lip is often chewed right through

Ask her what they have learnt about it in pshe/ life skills. My own 14 yr old has had the whole madness taught to her and her peers. She is very clear that to be critical is a complete taboo and can't understand anything different. I asked her recently what she would do if a boy was in the girls changing rooms - she wouldn't do anything because if he was in their it would be because he's a girl. I didn't go on to ask what she and her friends would do if he had a erection in front of them. The school guidance from what I've read is that if pupils object to a boy identifying as a girl being present when they change then the girls should be reminded that he is not a boy but a girl ...."but miss, he's got a penis". The stuff being taught is on transgendertrend site I think.
Basically our daughters are being silenced by men but in new a really fucked up way.

My 14 yo dd came across a piece about detransitioners and hadn't realised that was a thing. I've talked about lesbians and the averge age of coming out being 20 and how awful for these young females who have been confused and changed their bodies in ways that can't be reversed in the basis of that confusion. I've focused on it being a homophobic movement.

We've always been gender critical in the family - no such thing as toys, careers, clothing exclusively for boys or girls.