Thread for noting every time someone (TV or news etc) says gender when they mean sex

[BeyondWitchbitchterf]

Wondered if it might be an idea to keep track of these?

Thought occurred to me watching "Food: truth or scare" on BBC1 - 9.15am on 29/01/18 when they said "how you burn fat depends on age, fitness and gender". Being a actual science thing, I doubt your metabolism is changed by either a stereotype or the mysterious internal sense alluded to by TRAs

So there's the first example...

Even bloody medical research papers do this which drives me nuts.

This is the issue i have with the whole transgender debate - maybe if we insist on the use of sex or female when it comes to discussion about transwomen being women - as they all seem keen to highlight gender is a socisl construct and woman can be anything they want it to be - they are not female (sex) and never will be - job roles protected for women could be rebranded 'female' then there wouldnt be this issue something spouting that their gender identity today is a woman so they should be able to dress in our changing rooms and take a job as a womans officer!!

Mumsnet user profile page and just about every other website I sign up for.

I've have to tick "gender" boxes twice recently on medical forms. I was tempted on one of them to cross it out and put sex. I might do this next year (it was for a flu jab). The other form was online and was a form to report an adverse event from medication (where sex might turn out to be relevant, though possibly not in this particular case). There was no way of crossing out the box as it was online. I am thinking to write to them to point out the error.

I am in Ireland.

I didn't watch it but apparently Charlotte Bronte did in the otherwise highly regarded To Walk Invisible drama last year - she says something about 'because of my gender' which is absolutely glaringly anachronistic given that Victorians were perfectly happy with the word sex in that sense.
It's come to something when modern scriptwriters are more squeamish than the Victorians...

I've had to tick the F box on a couple of forms recently. They asked what gender are you? On both I crossed through gender and wrote sex on the top.

I was tempted to add on the gender box "fuck if I know since it is an utterly meaningless concept" but decided that would probably not be productive......

I feel your pain! I always cross out gender and write sex on forms, and in face to face situations, I usually ask for clarification about whether someone means gender or sex. It would be a massive job to keep track of all the transgressions cockups misuses of the word though.

Everett Ted speech ever. I tried googling ted speech sex discrimination and it was ALL described as gender, regardless of whether it was ACTUALLY about gender or ACTUALLY about sex.

Everett = every

This thread is going to get very long very quickly. I have my family well trained - we all shout "sex" at the screen whenever gender is misused

This is very well embedded and gender was in wide use instead of sex well before all this, because of squeamishness about the word "sex" I assume.

Many insurance apps ask for gender (when they mean sex)

European ruling on an insurance matter was called the Gender Directive (when they meant sex)

I think it's too late to turn it back. Most people use it in normal life more than sex. "Gender tests" for pregnant women for eg.

Although it's well worth doing it when it comes to UK laws - sex is a protected characteristic at the moment. So is Gender ID. That is fine. They are different.

I would suggest turning it into a drinking game, but we'd all end up in the hospital and the NHS is overstretched as it is.

I can't believe someone suggested a drinking game before I did. Fortunately I can add that since I will be identified as a 6 foot rugby playing bloke, I will be able to drink twice as much!

Having a gender scan....NO YOU ARE NOT!

Why does the GRO.gov website use 'gender' for searches for birth, death and marriage certificates when the certificates themselves say 'sex'?

Because they're a bunch of pandering cowards.

(And I haven't even started the drinking game yet!)

How many people were trans in 1837?

Just wondering.

None.

Gender identity is a term coined in 1963, gender in the sense of 'gender role' in 1955.

I blame the Americans.

Even bloody medical research papers do this which drives me nuts.

YY. Makes me want to throw things.

Terry, bet I can drink more than you.
I may have the body of a weak and feeble woman, but I have the gender of a concrete elephant

In my medical textbooks, they can just about write the shocking word "sex" when relating directly to organs, but any epidemiology info says "gender"

I think it's funny to watch people's faces when you say sex instead of gender. Little mouth pucker like : Is it OK to say a naughty word like 'sex'

ItsAllgoingtobefine

Yes! Me too

Also, I shout at TV historians who use the present tense to describe something that happened in the past (but that's a different thread)

(I don't shout 'sex' at them, BTW)