Conservative Woman piece about Labour AWS and GRA

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www.conservativewoman.co.uk/lefts-transgender-obsession-no-laughing-matter/ as promised. Here’s Karen’s piece.

The comments are interesting, everyone agrees that this is madness, but the bottom comment actively blames feminists for insisting that men and women are the same.
I'm relatively new to feminism but would be interested to know if this is true?

Thanks.

I do wish it had clarified the distinction between transsexual women and those who just think and dress like women however.

I think they're misunderstanding feminism- I'm not sure that's what feminism says?

Best of the four I've read.

Conservative Woman attracts a lot of MRAs.

GetDownDog
the bottom comment actively blames feminists for insisting that men and women are the same

No, feminists don't say men and women are the same. Thats what Male Rights Activists (MRA's) pretend to believe 'equality' means. It can make online discussions extremely tedious.
for example, in a discussion about prisons, the MRA will be the one insisting all prisons should be mixed sex, for equality. That's an argument made by someone who has no idea of how sentencing or prisons work. They will then insist 'but that's what feminists want' while everyone else is trying to talk about something serious like prison violence.
Its like trying to have a discussion when there's a disruptive, attention seeking child in the room.

They don't understand feminism at all, and it just reinforces my belief that when this transcult stuff collapses, it will be us that are blamed.

Now the tories are down to just 70,000 members could we not just take the party through entryism? (I say this as a woman just about still a member of the labour party)

One benefit of this article is the sheer respectability of the publication- I can share this with a wide range of people.

You beat me to it, just posted the link on another page - the one about the Labour party! Excellent article, hard hitting, pulls no punches - every parent indeed person should read

Karen’s great. The links are useful too. She’s going to carry on pursuing. I’ve NC again too.

That article is dreadful and full of inaccuracies.

Urgh, the comments.

Good article - thanks for sharing it.
Iam - could you point out a couple of the most egregious innacuracies in the article?

I thought it was mostly a good article. At least she says Madigan is a man and she gets the point about self ID across quite effectively, unlike the Times.

Hmm. I'm fully on board with this fight, but the 'destruction of the west'?! That comes under the Tory crazies hyperbole of the dark forces of permissiveness destroying our nice 1950s idyll. The comparison with sexual orientation, in a 'this is as bad as teaching small kids about homosexuality' kind of sense, does our cause no favours at all either. I know we can't pick our allies, but if I knew nothing of the debates, this article would make me think transgenderism was just another random bugbear of the rabid Tory right.

Put another way, if in the public mind, opposition to transgender activism comes to be associated with the kind of people who oppose homosexuality, abortion rights, divorce, feminism and social liberalism, we are sunk, because 'the wrong side of history' definitely springs to mind as a portmanteau term for that kind of belief set. There's a reason jacob rees-mogg is referred to as the honourable member for the 18th century!

That's what a large number left wing people already think though. That we're on the wrong side of history. As I said, I don't like everything about the article but she makes the point about self ID in a way that other publications, who have had their style guides rewritten by trans lobbying groups into Orwellian newspeak, cannot and don't.

I suppose that's my point, that this article just reinforces that belief. I agree there are good points made, but they get lost in the homophobia and nonsense about the decline of western civilization.

Hopefully a wide range of press, with some able to tell the truth and some cloaking it in newspeak, will gradually raise awareness about what's going on. If any Conservative Woman readers also read the Times article and vice versa those people will understand the problems with self ID better.