... and here's another stepping stone on the way to Peak Trans

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Our old friend Danielle Muscato has spoken.

I remember in a film I think it was Freebie and The Bean, an American 70s film, where one of the guys got shot and his partner got pads out of the dispenser in the women’s toilets to plug the bullet hole. Great common sense I thought, unlike DM’s comment. Perhaps chemist shops pay for their signs by the letter!

My dad says they're good for starting fires with as well as puncture/bullet wounds. Can't say I've tried it myself, but then I'm not a tampon-user anyway. My DH has used my sanitary towels when he had a stomach bug when we were on holiday once... Nope, can't think of any other use a biological man would have for any sanitary protection.

Personally, I'll worry more about those who require them but can't afford them & girls missing school because of it than the hurt feelings over what they're labelled as of someone who will never require them for their intended purpose.

DH had to use a sanitary towel last week.
He cut his finger open and used one to stem the bleeding so he could drive to hospital .

He came home and told me he had identified as woman the whole time he had it on

Btw he went into a shop and got given one, he doesn't usually have a packet of Bodyform in his tool bag.

Could Danielle be referring to their use by transmen who still menstruate?

For what it's worth (which assumes it's true):

At the same time, for women who could afford these products, it was illegal to mail disposable sanitary napkins and tampons in the United States. Because of the Comstack Laws, passed in 1873 but lasting for decades, banned the mailing of any “pornography or contraception-related” materials, sanitary products and contraceptives had to be re-branded as “feminine hygiene.” This really only affected well-to-do women who could afford luxuries such as disposable sanitary products and the postage to have them mailed.

This is all just so fucking annoying. Fine, change the words to Menstruation Products or something to include people who menstrate but don't identify as women. But as it is still 99% women who use sanitary products (includes female soldiers lol) why should we be changing it or getting told not to misgender them?
There are some women who can grow a beard and use beard oil but it still comes in the male grooming section.

Male cyclists used to wear pads, back in the days when racing bikes had less supportive saddles than they do now. Don't know if any still do, on longer rides. The thicker, brick like ones used to be better aparently.

Well I have used a pad as a dressing when I cut my arm badly enough to need stitches, the nurse in A&E said it was a good idea.

However, when we tried using tampons to start a fire at a very very rainy Ranger camp a couple of years ago, it didn't work

I used a pad when my son had a massive nose bleed in the back of the car while we were driving in down country roads trying to find a house in the arse of nowhere in France. It was much better than the usual tissues.

Menstruation is inherently transphobic. They can call it what they like but female people will go on doing it and male people will never do it.

Agreed -the aim here is not to make the language around it more acceptable to "all genders" but to stop anyone mentioning it at all.

The very existence of the female reproductive system is transphobic. This change is first, then it turns to charities who deal with this etc.

Call them 'menstruation products' and they sex themselves. Gender can fuck off.

ScreamingValenta

Could Danielle be referring to their use by transmen who still menstruate?

I'm sure that that is indeed what Danielle would say.

Transmen are invoked all the time to facilitate the deception.

Danielle wants to make everything to do with women transphobic to eliminate the distinction between him and us.

Using women who identify as men as the means, is misogyny on acid.

Danielle couldn't give a flying fuck about women, however they identify.

I'm new to all this, is this person for real? Like seriously? Good grief.

In fact, I would love someone to tweet Danielle back, claiming they are a Transman and they completely disagree.

It would be eye-opening.

troodiedoo

It seems more people are waking up to what's going on. If you're very new to this, this thread might be helpful. Because you're not the only one!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

I'm afraid so, troodiedoo. I believe he took up a place in a woman's refuge when he was homeless because he is so insistent that he is a woman. At the time he still had a beard and was not taking hormones. He sent this charming tweet out on International Women's Day last year.

averylongtimeago - Vaseline (or paraffin wax) is your friend. We make fire starters like that with our girls.
(With apologies for derail)

I think that the refuge chucked 2 women out who didn't accept that Danielle was a woman and didn't want them there?

All very progressive and empowerfulising. The directive to suck his dick makes that very clear. Women make allusions raping other women orally with their cocks all the time.

His actual point is, for once, quite sensible.
Females are not unhygienic, neither are periods.

They are nothing to do with how femininely you present/ how well you fulfill gender stereotypes. They are sex-specific, not gendered.

Feminine hygiene is a badly named category in any case.

Period products, menstrual or menstruation products, perhaps.

Bloody hell!

Thanks for the link. Have a 17 year old dd who is being brainwashed by these bullies. Need all the info I can get.

Yes I'm not crazy about the term "feminine hygiene". But period poverty is a real worldwide issue that needs to be properly addressed and that can only be done by the clear targeting of girls and women.

So what do men use tampons for

Bear Grylls starts fires with them. The little plastic wrapper keeps them dry, fluff out the cottony stuff and it makes a nice kindling product.

Female hygiene products. Men don't have periods. Or transwomen either. And as a woman who has had her uterus removed I'm not triggered in the slightest by the fact I'm not bleeding any more.

I saw a documentary a couple of years ago about a transwomen who was very exited to buy there first box of tampax. They’d had full bottom surgery and said they couldn’t wait to use them for the first time, like skipping down the street happy, clearly watched the ads and thought that was the reality for women. I thought that must surely be grim, using a tampon internally in a non-lubrecated area and maybe trigger toxic shock. Was so grim I had to turn over so I’ll never know how they got on.