Lily Madigan has no right to change the meaning of words

[WendyHadWings]

Lily Madison does not get to decide for everyone what a word in the English language means. Discuss without harming any turtles :)

Turtles?

Can we all slag off Liam Madison and call him a him, as long as we all agree to call him Liam/Lily Madison?

Has he said another stupid thing?

As you can change your name, but not your sex, it's entirely correct to call him Lily Madison.

I keep coming back to the ‘wah wah they are deadnaming me’ posts while simultaneously having a link to his PayPal (LIAM MADIGAN) in his twitter bio.

LM is a follower of the Riley Dennis "let's change the meaning of words to suit my purpose" philosophy.

rolls eyes

I agree. Lily does not get to decide for everyone.

It's fine to attempt to change the meaning of a word. But not fine to insist that everyone else use the new definition. Also not fine to insist that everyone pretends to agree with the new definition. And worse than not fine to insist that nobody talks about the fact that a new definition has been forcibly imposed on everyone else without their agreement and to half of the population's detriment.

We should be at liberty to say:
"that new definition of yours isn't fit for purpose because it's too wishy washy"
"let's just carry on using the definition that has served people well for the entirety of human history" or
"let's stick with the definition that translates into almost every single other language, everywhere".

But we're not at liberty to do this without being savaged. Why?

Sorry not quite the point

But today i read in an article and it said

Bob jones (who identifies as bob smith)

What the fuck!!

I'm just going to leave this here...

www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/histrionic-personality-disorder

I would be careful what you call people.
Vernon Mussington was found guilty of a hate crime for misgendering a tg that identified as a woman (despite dressing like a man looking like a man and having a deep voice) by greeting him/her with "All right Gezzer?" as he/she passed him

. (2:20 if you are short of time) At his trial he asked the judge if this TG, person was on trial instead of him and he /she was sent to prison what prison would he/she be sent to and the judge said an all male prison, then went on to find Mussington guilty.

My BF and I were discussing this at the weekend. There was a thread about Mussington:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2847658-Misgendering-conviction-overturned

He wasn't imprisoned. In fact he came on here afterwards to say there was more to the story than met the eye.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/2780007/entrepreneur-acquitted-of-harassing-a-transgender-person-and-calling-her-an-old-geezer-during-transition/amp/

It's fine to attempt to change the meaning of a word. But not fine to insist that everyone else use the new definition.

Yes. For some reason it reminds me this

Thehairthebod

"Stop trying to make 'transwomen are women' happen. It's not going to happen".

Both figuratively and - very sadly, for that tiny number of dysphoric transsexual people, and I wish it wasn't so - literally.