Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Arielle Scarcella and her video Trevor Moran Transgender : Fans Push Him To Be Trans

13 replies

MakeMisogynyAHateCrime · 28/12/2017 11:52

My cousin brought Arielle Scarcella (a YouTuber) to my attention over Christmas asking what I thought of her take on transgender issues.
I had to admit to never having heard of her but I’ve now watched a number of her videos and find her very interesting. Her channel is primarily focused on lesbianism and she seems to have been the target of the trans rights activists and labelled a transphobe for suggesting some elements of the transagenda are going too far, too fast without checks and balances, especially with regards physical transition at a young age.

One of her most recent videos is talking about a young man called Trevor Moran who has made a video (with over 1 million views) talking about how he felt forced by social media to transition because he is gay and liked wearing make up. How he made appointments to start hormone therapy because he was pushed by social media.

She says in the description below her video
“Being transgender is more than just changing your gender expression. It’s gender and body dysphoria. Coming out as a gay man, and being femme isn’t a step ‘below’ being trans.”

Her clarity and critical thinking on this topic is spot on and she is well worth a watch.
I don’t agree with everything she has to say however she seems very capable of reasoned debate and I think she could go a long way to reaching people.

Her video is called
Trevor Moran Transgender : Fans Push Him To “Be Trans”.

I would link it but I’m aware some YouTube links can be traceable when shared from the app.

OP posts:
TunaSushi · 28/12/2017 12:52

They are both brave, her for discussing this and him for explaining the dynamics of his experience.

cromeyellow0 · 28/12/2017 15:43

If you look at the reddit asktransgender, a lot of people ask questions along the lines of "I wonder if I'm trans but I don't feel any body dysphoria". The responses are inevitably: yes you are trans, any doubts are internalized transphobia, just get some testosterone / estrogen and all your problems will be solved.

Trans seems to be the default cure for every problem of adolescence ...

GuardianLions · 28/12/2017 15:56

It is insane that young people are going through this crap.

IrkThePurist · 28/12/2017 16:03

Trans activists sound more and more like homophobic, intolerant bigots. There is nothing more binary than the trans agenda.

NotAgainYoda · 28/12/2017 16:39

That poor young man. He's so distressed in the video

I like Arielle

NotAgainYoda · 28/12/2017 16:43

Good for them both

Makes me feel a bit teary actually. I hope these sorts of videos reach young people

NotAgainYoda · 28/12/2017 16:53

Can I ask something?

I assume that amongst his contemporaries, being gay is not something you'd get any heat for. But that being an effeminate gay man would be?

So some of the comments he'd be getting might be about that?

Or is it ( even more depressingly) even more superficial than that? That "hey kids, it's cool to be a transwoman"

Or is it a mixture of the two - a homophobic agenda exploiting the young people?

bambambini · 28/12/2017 21:05

I think a very few kids have proper dysphoria. I think some are jumping on for the ride - for a little while. I think some kids are really mixed up, vulnerable, lost, easily led/manipulated. Many seem to be autistic or claim to be. A young transperson (female) on twitter who says they're autistic has some really bizarre posts. They generally dress a bit edgy/goth like but still look fairly feminine- edgy style. Then they posted pics of themself without the goth make up, hair slightly more feminine - posing and saying, “I’m cis today”. They posted old childhood pics where they’re wearing jeans, trainers saying how it proved they’d always been “trans” and hadn’t been encouraged by their parents to dress like this. They looked no different to how me and my girl friends looked as kids.

The more you look at these kids and their claims/views -the stranger it all gets.

cromeyellow0 · 28/12/2017 22:00

NotAgainYoda It doesn't seem to be homophobia, because transgenderism is increasing as homophobia declines--almost as if the passage of same-sex marriage kickstarted the trans trend! Also transgender seems most prevalent in Britain among middle-class white kids, where homophobia is least.

bambambini It is weird, and I wonder if there's something that my middle-aged mind isn't getting. (Are most people who post on this topic over 40? I suspect so.) Perhaps if you spend a lot of your time interacting through the internet, then your physicality becomes less important. Just as I can choose a sexy Japanese schoolgirl as my avatar in a videogame, why can't I become her in real life?

bambambini · 29/12/2017 00:37

Perhaps if you spend a lot of your time interacting through the internet, then your physicality becomes less important. Just as I can choose a sexy Japanese schoolgirl as my avatar in a videogame, why can't I become her in real life?

That’s an interesting point. I’m a 50yr old mother of 2 going through the menopause. When these kids patronisingly tell me biology is meaningless and that i need to educate myself - well, it does make me pause for thought.

NotAgainYoda · 29/12/2017 06:50

The comments from (I assume) young people - some of them transgender- under Arielle's video are heartening

MentholBreeze · 29/12/2017 07:19

bambambini It is weird, and I wonder if there's something that my middle-aged mind isn't getting. (Are most people who post on this topic over 40? I suspect so.) Perhaps if you spend a lot of your time interacting through the internet, then your physicality becomes less important. Just as I can choose a sexy Japanese schoolgirl as my avatar in a videogame, why can't I become her in real life?

I think it's just standard mixed-up teenagers TBH - I'm not quite 40, and have been on the internet (or bulletin boards) since I was about 15, so I've been choosing avatars, playing as other people all my life. I know when I was younger I lacked outward confidence (and money) so could never have become a goth or whatever, but I did pin all my dreams on a future where I was taller and thin (despite being persistently short and fat). I think when you're younger it can all seem possible, because there's so much future ahead, and the practicalities you just don't think about.

MakeMisogynyAHateCrime · 29/12/2017 10:49

Yoda, I agree the comments are giving me a bit of hope. Lots of trans people struggling with the way things are headed and speaking out sensibly - I hope they are afforded the opportunity to have their voice heard.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread