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Sexist comedian

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endchauvinism · 13/12/2017 21:14

This performance by wildly popular comedian Bill Burr is a good example of how funny guys get away with abuse and sexism. Yes, he's doing comedy, but his underlying points are clearly not jokes to him. I’ve also heard him on his podcast being just as misogynistic when he's serious.

Here’s a youtube link “Bill Burr -- There is no reason to hit a woman”
Notice the serious messages he slips in with the comedy:

  1. Women bring up domestic violence against women too much.
  2. Men make all the hard sacrifices because women are too selfish and lazy to help more (example is when his wife won’t take the dog out at night)
  3. There are reasons to hit women. Don’t do it, but there are reasons to. (WTF? If there are reasons to, then why not do it?)

He finishes off in the video, saying that the core reason men hit women is because of how women argue and verbally attack men.
The audience roars with laughter all the way through, although he notices tension in the room at one point. What’s it take to get people to stop brushing off the bad behavior of a**holes who make them laugh and charm them?

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IrkThePurist · 13/12/2017 21:43

I watched Bill Burr on Netflix, when he did a similar skit on domestic violence. His 'question' to the audience was'but what did she say to him?' (to provoke him into hitting her).
A woman in the audience shouted 'answered him'. Bill Burr didn't hear her response and laid into her.
It was the ultimate in irony; his behaviour copied that of her abusive ex partner, while he tried to prove his point that women provoke abuse.

He's also done a skit saying that women can get away with behaviour that men cant, because men are conditioned not to attack women.

AskBasil · 13/12/2017 22:35

He's not actually very funny, is he.

endchauvinism · 14/12/2017 02:28

I think what bothers me most is seeing women in the audience at his other shows laughing at his harsh jokes about women.

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Psyfer · 14/12/2017 02:40

There is three little dots on that youtube page for you to click on and report it.

ColleenMoore · 12/10/2018 21:12

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FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 21:21

So, what was it about this old thread that spurred you on into a lecture to 'hardline feminists' about how not all women are saints and men wanting to hit them is normal even if they shouldn't follow through?

LurkingWaspi · 12/10/2018 21:42

[Hmm]
The ghost of Bernard Manning

ColleenMoore · 12/10/2018 22:35

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ClosdesMouches · 12/10/2018 22:40
Hmm
FermatsTheorem · 12/10/2018 22:50

Christ, it's a female variant on the midnight misogynist, only with crap taste in humour.

RedDogsBeg · 12/10/2018 23:00

I do so love the nonsensical Presumably you believe all women are saints line which is trotted out so regularly by these kind of posters.

FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 23:07

It's nice to have a Bill Burr fan here tonight. I mean, I've never heard of him and couldn't care less, but I love it when the obscure gain a following.

Do I think all women are saints? Nope. Women saints tend to be my favourites, though, St Therese of Lisieux is a cracker, and St Gianna Molla kicks all kinds of arse.

I have no desire to hit you or anyone else right now. You do realize that violent impulses are fairly worrisome, yes? You really think that it's a normal reaction to life's irritations to want to beat other people up? You're quite a scary individual, really, aren't you?

Give Bill my best. And do keeping reining in those violent tendencies. Wouldn't want you arrested for assault, that would be so annoying for you.

NoSuchThingAsAlpha · 12/10/2018 23:18

Colleen

No, I do consider it normal, under provocation, for a man to want to hit a woman, just as I also consider it normal for a woman to want to hit a man.

Not normal for me.

Smallhorse · 12/10/2018 23:27

I agree with Colleen.
I don't often want to hit anyone but I have felt like it on a few occasions but never actually did it.
I don't think that's anything to be too worried about

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gilchrist168 · 12/10/2018 23:41

Never heard of Bill Burr, and not really interested in him.
He must need a gig and sent his agent.

FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 23:43

Dude, I didn't 'object to the statement that not all women are saints' I asked why you felt it necessary to come and remind 'hardline feminists' that women weren't saints, which wasn't a position any feminists were putting forward, and is entirely irrelevant to whether or not a man should want to hit them.

RedDogsBeg · 12/10/2018 23:47

You totally misread/misunderstood what FloralBunting said in her comment to you. Try reading it again.

RedDogsBeg · 12/10/2018 23:48

cross post Floral, the reading comprehension skills these days are lacking somewhat.

FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 23:55

Red, it's a really big problem these days. The National Curriculum needs work.

MrGHardy · 12/10/2018 23:56

So I have been watching quite a few Netflix comedy specials recently. I remember starting one but stopping. Just checked my history and turns out I remembered right, it was Bill Burr. Stopped after 22 minutes.

No idea what you see in him Colleen but I did not feel him at all.

gilchrist168 · 12/10/2018 23:59

There is a real Colleen Moore, a leading UK Criminologist.
Interesting choice of user name.

ColleenMoore · 13/10/2018 00:01

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FloralBunting · 13/10/2018 00:11

Well, I'm still not understanding your point. Firstly because not one feminist here was arguing that 'all women are saints'. But also because many, many saints were killed by men without any provocation whatsoever. Well, St Maria Goretti was killed because she refused to have sex with a guy, which can be mighty vexing to fellas, I understand.

A man acting in self defense if an assailant of any sex comes at him with a knife is not at all the same as a man wanting to hit his wife be sure she irritates him.

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