Do men and women commit DV equally?

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Apparently they do according this this man on twitter. Although I haven't found anything to back up what he is saying, I can't say I spent hours searching. I can always rely on you lot in feminism chat to clarify and make sense of things though.

So is he right or does he just not understand statistics?

What they don't tell you is, the majority of males who are victims of domestic violence are actually victims of other males in their families.
Males are victims of their brothers, fathers, step fathers. uncles and of men who cohabit with their mothers.
This is information is rarely ever mentioned on any of the sites that offer help to male DV victims.

This specific information that is so relevant and important is suppressed by virtually all of them and it is suppressed by them for a reason.

It really is outrageous that this information is not on the front page of everyone of their websites and it should be tackled and I think these so called charities that claim they are there to help males should lose all their funding because of what they are hiding.

I had a cousin who was an alcoholic and used to throw almighty drunken rages and beat up her husband, who was a lovely, kind and gentle soul. I don't think he ever feared for his life but he was definitely under enormous stress trying to manage the outbursts. He left her eventually and she died about ten years after that, of alcohol-related disease.

This is the only incidence of serious domestic abuse by a woman I've ever had personal contact with but I know dozens upon dozens of women who have suffered.

I think an important thing to note is that when my cousin's husband eventually gave up and left her, he was able to just get on with life. She didn't stalk him or threaten him, or burst into his house in the middle of the night and strangle him for his effrontery in leaving. But women suffering domestic abuse are in the most danger when trying to leave or after leaving. This pattern isn't evident when the woman is the perpetrator.

AsMenDclaredWomenTheirInferior - that is such an important point.

What they don't tell you is, the majority of males who are victims of domestic violence are actually victims of other males in their families

Yes. In the same way Male victims of sexual abuse are more often the victims of other men rather than women.

Never gets brought up for some reason. It's always "men are raped/abused/assaulted too" with no elaboration as to who the perpetrators are. It's almost like nobody wants to face up to it...

Lang that’s not exclusive though. I know two women who are abusers, and one absolutely is a danger not just to her ex husband but to her child (and potentially to me, as I provided residential care for a period). It’s important to recognize that the majority is VAW, but not to negate the experiences of the minority where it is not the case.
(Woman A stabbed her DH - not in self defence/ after years of abuse. Woman B has serious mental illness and paranoia. Both are alcoholics.)
Many many more women experience violence at the hands of men.

(That was the stalking and violence after separation in case it wasn’t clear. Protection orders are in place but may not be effective)

Literally not one person on this thread has said DV is exclusively male on female.

No - but lang’s Suggestion was that women perpetrators don’t present a danger after separation. I was just refuting that - it may have been a generalization, but there are a small number of female abusers who are just as capable of stalking, harassment, and family annihilation as the many many more male equivalents. I just didn’t want the assumption to stand that women are not capable of family annihilation post separation.

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Yes
"with no elaboration as to who the perpetrators are"
Yes you know why don't you? because it would require men to change

Men weep and say.."Oh no, Millions of men have been killed"
Feminist replies "OMG Who killed them?"
Men with indignation respond..
"Oh just STFU that's irrelevant"

and all the men fell over themselves in the rush to build monuments to their own stupidity.

blackdoggotmytongue - I said pattern, which is what I meant. The pattern for male-on-female domestic abuse is that the abuse often intensifies after break-up but the pattern is not the same the other way around. I didn't mean to imply that it never happens, of course. Hope that clarifies!

Absolutely Lang. 😁 I’m just super-sensitive to this at the moment as we found ourselves inadvertently in that position through care giving. Didn’t mean to derail!

Of course, Blackdog, I can only imagine. Got caught up in a dangerous situation once myself when a flatmate ended it with an abusive man and he kept turning up at the house, alternating between threatening violence and suicide. It's truly frightening. The guy actually followed me to work once because he'd got it into his head that it was me stopping her going back to him. You have all my sympathies.

Love this quote from Karen Ingala-Smith's blog:

Denying women’s much greater suffering as victims of domestic and/or sexual violence is a political act.

It so is!

What AsMenDclaredWomenTheirInferior is totally right. Male victims are regularly at the hand of male family members.

Also Domestic homicides where a man is the victim, said man was almost always the main perpetrator of DV during the relationship. Women still tend to get fucked for it when it goes to court though...

You can be absolutely fucking sure that if over 80 men a year were killed by their female (obviously this includes trans now) partner, there would be riots.

Women have access to all sorts of ways of killing their partners, but by far the most of them are savagely beaten or stabbed to death. Some attempt near death so that the women survive. With horrendous injuries and PTSD. This includes the killing of their children as well.

Men kill men alert.

Of course they do. During the last century there were two world wars.

In this century we have Iraq and currently IS and Sedan.

When I worked for a city Homeless team, we used to get the Police bringing us victims of domestic violence for temporary accommodation and then to be rehoused. It was roughly something like 90 % percent women & children, with the remainder all being men in same sex relationships. Not a massive sample size, but men were the perpetrators in all of our cases and some of the stories and the injuries were heartbreaking.

We were seeing an increase in cases of men presenting or being presented by the police however to the extent where there was training for dealing specifically with male victims being rolled out as a joint initiative between us, the Police, Social Work and a couple of charities.

Well this explains it all really. It's all lesbians fault.

When a lesbian is abused by her female partner, the female partner is recorded as a man as they are dominant. what is this rubbish?!

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/stv.tv/amp/1402714-domestic-abusers-to-be-prosecuted-for-crimes-abroad/ post was in relation to this article BatShite the article had a picture of a woman cowering from a male abuser, the idiot in the comments was offended that it wasn't a picture of a woman abusing a man because it happens just as often apparently. After being told they were full of shit and provided with links they decided to blame lesbians

IMO men are far less likely to report it & if they do they don’t get taken seriously or given any support. Apparently the biggest factor in homelessness is DV. So my answer is there’s no way of knowing. But what we do know is fatalities caused by DV which is obviously almost all women victims.