Women's weightlifting world championships

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Live stream (on now) here if anyone is interested:

www.teamusa.org/usa-weightlifting/live

Featuring 9 woman and a man, Laurel Hubbard. He is likely to medal.

it was 144kg
www.iwf.net/scoreboard/scoreboard3.php

I really hope Hubbard knocks it out of the park. An easy win.

This frustrates me as my 16 yo niece is a weight lifter and will possibly be competing against transgender women in the future. I don’t care what they say, being a man with male hormones and genetics is obviously an advantage. Women are being robbed. They need to compete in a different category!

Go Sarah ! That last lift by her was awesome.

So Hubbard can't win, as he's gone for 151kg on last lift, which means Robles is gold medallist.

Harsh on the 20-year-old Thai lifter to be pushed out by a man.

So did he get silver?

So it's

1. USA
2. cheating NZ
3. Egypt
4. Thailand

How shit for that girl to have her medal stolen from her by a man twice her age.

It's a mad world.

Imagine the atmosphere though, had Hubbard won. The US hasn't had a great lifter for years, and here one is at last, at the World Champs, with a California home crowd. It would have been quite something.

The commentator just manages a knowing 'This is the first time we've seen a New Zealand lifter'.

No mention of the fact it's a fucking bloke

presumably the commentators would get sacked and called bigots if they even mentioned that Hubbard is a man.

So just smile sweetly.

A man who achieved nothing as a man places 2nd as a woman at world champs. Yea, TW have no advantage. Riiiiight.

So Hubbard is twice as old as the other competitors - well into middle age - and yet still won silver? The biological advantage is obvious. And unfair.

This is so wrong. The fourth place competitor has been robbed of a medal.

Is there a way of contacting the team/competitor and saying that is how we see it? Nobody speaks up because they are afraid of being called transphobic and being piled on and yet I'm willing to bet a majority of people think this is a travesty.

What a fucking joke
we definitely need a trans category for sports

I disagree sorry.

Suffering from mental health issues or AGP doesn’t warrant a separate category for sport.
You compete as the sex you were born as. If that means you’re not good enough, then welcome to the 99% of the population that aren’t Olympians/world champs/athletes either.

Asking for a trans category is a tactical thing to do.

In real life it will never happen. Partly because there aren’t enough trans people to go round, but also it will still be biological men competing against other biological men. Which is the exact thing they are trying to get away from.

Don't get me wrong I agree that ideally you should compete as a sex that you were born with
However given the current fashion for coming out as trans, the way that trans people are lauded for their courage and bravery etc.... Well it just seems to me that arguing for a separate trans category might be a way to stop them competing against women?

Most male weightlifters in my view would also see this as travesty, they are well aware of the strength advantages that men have over women

As far as I know, Laurel has never claimed to be a "transwoman" or to have a lady brain etc. This makes him different from people like Fallon Fox or Hannah Mouncey who do identify themselves as women. He's just blatantly exploiting a loophole to win medals.

The fact that Laurel came second will be used to support their validity.
"what are you complaining about, there's no advantage,otherwise laurel would have won!"

Agree Polly. I'd almost rather he'd got gold, then the point would have been better made.He's robbed someone of a medal either way though.

I suspect a particular athlete of using certain defeats as a tactic to deflect criticism. Doesn't always win but pulls it out of the bag for the big events and finals funnily enough.

I just cannot believe sporting bodies are going along with this. They of all people must be aware of the biological differences in strength between males and females.

cromeyellow0

If Hubbard is not claiming to be a woman in order to enter women’s sports, how has he done it?

I’ve had a brief skim, but can’t find anything where he claims he’s not actually a woman.

Can you remember where you saw that?

Or is that your conclusion because he doesn’t write ream after ream about his ‘journey’.

www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/99595478/transgender-weightlifter-laurel-hubbard-avoids-interviews-after-silver-medals

From this article it seems that some coaches at least feel able to say they are not happy.

The fault appears to lie with the International Olympic Committee, whose rules on transgender athletes are followed by the International Weightlifting Federation.