Pornography activist, great article

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I follow Steve Biddulph on fb. I am aware of a few bits in his raising boys book that I disagree with but on the whole I think he’s really fab, especially on subjects of male emotional literacy and the roots of male objectification of women.

He shared this article, and I have been wowed that there is such an activist actively going into schools, saying this sort of thing. A pretty cool activist too, the sort teens would look up to. And the questions he poses are good too.

Is there anyone in the uk doing similar?

fightthenewdrug.org/activist-richie-hardcore-talks-porns-effects-new-zealand-australia/

We objectify and dehumanize people in pornography, and when we do that, we dehumanize ourselves

I agree with that. He doesn't seem to be approaching this from a religious/"anti-sex" perspective which makes it more difficult for the porn lobby to argue against him.

Yes, I think the line “you don’t see hugging in porn” or communicating about whether each partner is happy, struck me as key to talk about with teens.

This is such a good movement. Thanks for sharing.

The usual ignorant bullshit. And there's nothing creepier than a 'male feminist'.
there's actually a growing movement towards ethical porn - where all performers are fully consenting, properly paid and treated with courtesy and respect. Unfortunately, this is the stuff that routinely gets hit first and hardest every time a government (often supported by the likes of this smug idiot) decides to Do Something about porn.

He’s not talking about that sort of porn. He’s talking about the messages young people are getting from watching general porn. And the impact this has on them and specifically young women.

I don’t get why it’s ignorant or bullshit.

Most porn isn’t ethically made though, and is hugely misogynistic and Male-centric. Tbh if “ethical” porn gets thrown out with the horrible abusive porn bath water, then tough titties (imo)

He's starting with the assumption that all porn is the same. 'You never see anyone hugging in porn' is one of those red-flag phrases that mean the speaker hasn't watched much or done much research, and has a narrow, restrictive view of sexual behaviour in the first place.
Not a word out of him about, for instance, gay porn.

Do you not think it’s useful for him to speak to school children and make them aware that what is shown in most porn (the type that school children are likely to see, sadly) is not loving, respectful, mutually satisfying sex, SGB? And in fact the testimonies of women who were involved in porn but then got out are absolutely horrifying tales of rape, abuse and drug and alcohol addictions.

I doubt many teens google for ethical porn. And they have, good on them. The majority is misogynistic and dominating.

Also, I expect they tend to see short clips of the main wild bit, rather than a fleshed out romantic story.

Should we listen to teenage girls saying porn is harming relationships, or the porn industry saying its harmless?

Sex Before Kissing: How 15-Year-Old Girls Are Dealing With Porn-Obsessed Boys
fightthenewdrug.org/sex-before-kissing-15-year-old-girls-dealing-with-boys/

''Pornography is molding and conditioning the sexual behaviors and attitudes of boys, and girls are being left without the resources to deal with the[m].''

It's vital that young people get good, comprehensive sex education - and true that they shouldn't get it from porn (any more than people should learn first aid by watching Holby City).
But I've yet to encounter any anti-porn activist who isn't wilfully ignorant, dishonest, narrow-minded, with a very prescriptive view of sex - or all of those things.
The UK government's current attitudes towards porn are definitely all of the above - their big idea at present is to hand all control of age verification over to one big, mainstream company (Mindgeek) which is both unethical in its business practices (it's basically a pirate site which rips off performers) and thoroughly sloppy in its data handling.

But, yeah, let's keep on giving money and attention to smug dicks like this bloke. I bet he's absolutely fucking wonderful at telling women how to do feminism (you know, were he to debate against women who work in the industry under ethical conditions...)

ReanimatedSGB is absolutely correct.

I have seen plenty of hugging in porn. As well as laughter, teasing, attentiveness, sensitivity and crazy wild fucking.

If this "ooh, look at me, I'm not like other boys" male feminist (who shares the label with Louis CK and Harvey Weinstein) only saw the negative stuff when looking at porn it speak to his character, noone elses.

I think it’s different when it’s adults, seeking out porn on the foundation of a relatively porn free upbringing and understanding the ins and outs of the sex trade, consent etc so helping them to make informed decisions about their choices and porn consumption, against teens who will be shown stuff by mates or stumble across it and may not have the emotional capacity to recognise differences.

Ethical porn is not what’s being looked at here in reality.

And teen boys will respond better to a young, cool male boxer than many other campaigners.

Also, this is Australia. No idea how their sex Ed works.

I agree with djbaggy regarding the stats.

And I’ve seen ethical porn as a adult.

And there's nothing creepier than a 'male feminist'

I find the proponents of "ethical porn" pretty creepy to be honest.

I have seen plenty of hugging in porn. As well as laughter, teasing, attentiveness, sensitivity and crazy wild fucking.

This is just not the kind of porn that most teenage boys are watching though.