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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

FFS does anyone else get these moments where they just despair...

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CarefulBunny · 20/11/2017 12:28

I KNOW I shouldn't engage in online debate but sometimes I see comments that are so ridiculous I can't help myself. There's a debate raging on my local parent's facebook group at the moment about the pyjamas for boys saying "little superhero" with the girl's equivalent reading "daddy is my superhero". Seriously 90% of the comments are people saying "OMG why are people getting so offended" "It's political correctness gone mad" "Kids don't pick up on messages, it's just adults creating drama for no reason".

What's really depressing is it's mostly women saying these things.

Sometimes I just sit there and type in an enraged fashion but then think what good is this going to do anyway and then just feel quite sad.

Just a rant!

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HellsBellsnBucketsofBlood · 20/11/2017 12:32

Yep. It’s depressing. As I age I find myself getting more militant in the other direction.

PetiteMarseillaise · 20/11/2017 12:35

Not so much despair, more of a bubbling rage... Have a cuppa with your rant Brew Smile

CarefulBunny · 20/11/2017 12:39

I feel a bubbling rage initially and then it all abates to despair....especially when I see such nonsensical comments as "some little girls just have glitter in their veins"

I mean really how do you fight against that kind of wilful stupidity?

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CarefulBunny · 20/11/2017 12:42

Oh and also "your daughter will only be a second class citizen if she lets people do it to her"

Just....FUCKING NO.

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terryleather · 20/11/2017 12:42

I think it's partly because waking up to this small stuff means you may wake up to it all, that is to say women & girl's over all position in society.

That's a hard and painfull thing to do and harder still if you have a male partner, male children.

Much of the time I wish I could "unsee" how things are because it makes me so angry and I feel alone and unable to do anything much about it at an individual level so I can absolutely see the appeal of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalala it's all fine and dandy".

Thank the gods for MN and the FWR boards!

CarefulBunny · 20/11/2017 12:43

That's what it is terry, and like many others I have MN to thank for waking me up to the "small stuff", as it were.

And I have got a male partner and one DC who is also male. I often feel glad that he is. Being a woman just feels like one endless uphill battle.

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DeleteOrDecay · 20/11/2017 13:00

Yes, even on other sections of mn sometimes too.

BillywigSting · 20/11/2017 13:05

I don't often venture into this board but I totally agree op.

It was rage a few years ago, and now, yes the sheer bloody mindedness of some people who just refuse to think critically is wearing.

But that's the crux of it really isn't it. It's just the way society is, and it's a mammoth task to try and change it.

I suppose it's only human to despair every now and then.

terryleather · 20/11/2017 13:06

Re: my comment about partners and sons, I’m not saying having a feminist awakening means you have a problem with them, more that knowing how much you love the good men in your life might make it harder to see how the world runs for the benefit of men as a class.

Ekphrasis · 20/11/2017 13:10

Careful, I often feel it’s as bad for young boys too. Must be strong, brave, boys don’t cry etc.

Luckily, all the local parents groups I’m in are extremely sensible. I’m
Afraid I’d have to leave such a group!

CarefulBunny · 20/11/2017 13:17

You're right Ek, and I do have a sensitive boy and worry for him being exposed to toxic masculinity etc

I'm glad I'm not alone. Small mercies :)

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