So twitter is up in arms about 'transphobia'. Do you find this offensive?

[HornyTortoise]

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I certainly do, but in a different way to them.

They reckon its transphobic and making a joke out of trans people. I see it as the business accepting that Jenner is actually a w2oman now, so surely this sis about as 'inclusive' as it gets?

Where I think its kind of offensive to have 2 male loos, which is what this is saying really. Also think having the 'normal' male one mixed with disabled is pretty wrong, what if a disabled person was female? Having a male person on a female loo door is just silly, and if they want to be inclusive, they should really just make it all unisex.

But yeah, apparently wherever this is, that has tried their very best to be trans-inclusive...is transphobic. The word means nothing these days does it..

Wow MN is posting on its own - twitter.com/DomDiFurio/status/925142834428239878 is the twitter thread I saw, with many strong opinions.

‘She was never a man’

Arghhhhhuufgfhfhhhhuuuurrrrrrrrgggh

not envy

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The theory is that being male or female is not a categorisation of biology, but of a feeling in your head.

Therefore because trans-lwomen have always felt female, it means they’ve always been female. They were assigned male because of their biology, but their biology is wrong.

Neatly ignoring the fact that male and female are categories actually based on biology.

It’s recategorising the meaning of the word male and female.

And is pushed, mostly, by men who transition late, who have autogynephilia. They are so aroused by the idea of themselves as a woman, and it’s so compelling, that they want people to think they have always felt this way. That they actually are women.

Homosexual transsexuals, don’t tend to think this way, nor say it.

It's obviously utterly nonsensical to refer to people who were representing themselves as men as women. So a man who raped a girl when he was working as a male teacher should not be referred to as she, even if he represents as female now.

I mean this poor victim of a paedophile who was only fined £500 and not sentenced to prison or rehabilitation because there are no treatment courses for women

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/victim-vile-bondage-paedophile-tells-8608834

is interviewed about his abuse but has to suffer the indignity of the newspaper reporting abuse by a man as saying "urinate in her mouth and humiliate her by hitting her then-male genitals.".

What in the actual fuck? Why are we blindly accepting this NONSENSE that all these people were actually born female and most of their lives never even happened, or everyone was mistaken for 50 years or whatever.

It is RIDICULOUS. It defies basic logic. If you are describing a male-bodied person abusing someone with their male genitals you use male pronouns. The rapist doesn't get to redefine his abuse. Fuck that. The whole 'dead-naming' thing is bullshit.

It's totally nonsensical but people just swallow it because they don't understand and they are terrified of being called transphobic for asking people to explain how the fuck any of it makes any sense.

It's one thing to claim that you transition from male to female but quite another to claim that after transitioning, your prior life MAGICALLY NEVER HAPPENED. I mean fucking hell. Emperor's new genitals or what?

So when exactly did he feel like a woman when he was Bruce? Was it when he was winning meddles in a male sport? Was it when he was fathering his children? Or being a member of an all male golf club??

Seriously do these people even listen to themselves as words come out of their mouths??

Seriously do these people even listen to themselves as words come out of their mouths?

Nooo. Black is white. Up is down. And men are women.

Yes they've always felt female, even as a newborn baby, even when they only decided last week. That's the foundation stone for their ideology. It's why being transgender is very popular with paedophiles and sex offenders, because they can erase their offending history by becoming a woman. gendertrender.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/gender-identity-specialists-warn-of-ever-increasing-tide-of-transwoman-sex-offenders/

Yes it's saying 'if you're a bloke in a dress use this door, if you're a bloke in shorts use this door, women you can fuck off'

Transphobic my arse.

Stupid fuckers.

This ^^

This is better.

I found this, about 'transphobia'

Well worth a read for the women of mumsnet It concludes..

And that’s why the Mumsnet TERFs aren’t real women – just angry, bitter and twisted trolls who should address their own anger and issues instead of slagging off other people like teenage keyboard warriors.

After a bunch oif self indulgent twaddle.

andiepasdedeux.wordpress.com/2017/03/18/mumsnet-terfs-youre-not-real-women/

That blogger seems a bit thick. There is a reply by 'John Stuart Mill XX' about what it is to be a woman, and the blogger seems to think that because she is posting as 'John', she must be a man.

Also they say if you disagree comment sections below and then say they’re deleting all comments without reading them. Obviously wasn’t expecting reasoned comments then.

"Caitlyn Jenner was a woman before she began changing her body and name."

Really?

Was Jenner a woman when he fathered children the old-fashioned way, through PIV sex?

"Black is white. Up is down. And men are women."

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

If Orwell only knew how precisely the Newspeak in his 1984 would come true.

You missed out the important part of that

"In reality, science suggests that transgender people experience gender dysphoria because they experience their gender identity psychologically, not just physically. In other words, Caitlyn Jenner was a woman before she began changing her body and name."

It's SCIENCE doncha know. And you don't want to be against science do you!?

Obviously it's still nonsense, because it presumes that the dysphoria manifested itself at birth, which is ridiculous. It might only have started last week, how can we possibly know?

PA HA HA HA HA HA

Oh I needed that. Bruce Jenner was never a man? And has had his privacy invaded? Oh my giddy aunt.

As others have said, Caitlyn Jenner has actually been pretty reasonable on this matter. In an interview she admitted she often forgets and calls herself Bruce. But the rest of the world have to forget a medal winning athlete was ever a man, following his transition in a blaze of worldwide publicity.

These people are comedy gold.