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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Great blog from David Davis on changes to GRC

38 replies

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 09/10/2017 20:43

I just saw this shared on Facebook and thought it would be of interest here. I don't think it's been posted already.

www.david-davies.org.uk/news/transgender-rights-versus-womens-privacy

It's very well reasoned and would be great for directing other MPs towards.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/10/2017 12:26

Well we need some nice liberal lefties on side as well then

The problem is most nice liberal lefties don't want to labelled transphobes, as that strips them of the nice liberal lefty label.

busyboysmum · 10/10/2017 14:41

Don't think the lib dems will be on board sadly - I have just received this from Vince Cable (apparently):

Thank you for your email.

As Liberal Democrats, Vince and the party believe that people should live as they want and that includes self-identifying.

Kind regards
Amy
Leader's Correspondence Team
8-10 Great George Street, London, SW1P 3AE

Quite an indepth reply to the points I had raised with them :)

ErrolTheDragon · 10/10/2017 15:58

the party believe that people should live as they want and that includes self-identifying.

Send back what cocoa said 'one of the liberal tenets is freedom but that you should not do harm to others'

DJBaggySmalls · 10/10/2017 16:04

The current govt are not left wing or liberal. Neither is the govt of Iran, where gay people are given the 'choice' to transition or face the death penalty.
I cant believe I have to keep making this point.

misscockerspaniel · 10/10/2017 18:53

This is what Norman Lamb (Lib Dem) is quoted as saying several months' ago on the subject of mixed-sex hospital wards: "Men and women should never have to share hospital wards, it's an affront to basic human dignity".

I don't think the Left are connecting the dots (yet).

Ereshkigal · 10/10/2017 20:07

Wow that Lib Dem response is utterly appalling. Maybe post it on twitter!

Ereshkigal · 10/10/2017 20:08

I would remind Amy of Norman Lamb's words. But she'll probably give some Orwellian bollocks back.

Bucketsandspoons · 10/10/2017 20:08

Baggy do you really think a Corbyn led government would see this differently? If anything Corbyn and co seem even more enthusiastically sucked in by it all.

Miffer · 10/10/2017 20:18

As one of those lefties who participates a lot in internet activism (along with the real life variety) I can honestly say this doesn't come up that much. My circle are a mix of old school socialist and younger anarchist types (FYI I lean more to the latter politically). When trans is mentioned it is usually no more than a T on the end of LGBT.

Feminist issues tend to be around poverty, DV and health.

quencher · 10/10/2017 20:40

Wow! Endless applauses from me.

newtlover · 11/10/2017 22:44

agree that it's a good piece, but looking at the wiki link, it's more than just your average common or garden tory...

hackmum · 12/10/2017 12:19

Vince Cable has gone down in my estimation. Not that he was very high anyway, after the Royal Mail privatisation.

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